KillerMovies - Movies That Matter!

REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Home » Comic Book Forums » X-Men » X-Men Origins: Wolverine

X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Started by: Praylu

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (55): « First ... « 6 7 [8] 9 10 » ... Last »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Sabretooth
I was dead. I got better.

Gender: Male
Location: Right behind you RUNT!

quote: (post)
aintitcool.com Feb 2, 2007
Brian Cox to be CG Young-ified in WOLVERINE movie?

Hey folks, Harry here - Remember that Playboy - CG - Airbrushed look that they did to Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart in X3? Well, looks like they might be employing that technique on the WOLVERINE movie to Brian Cox - as the film is apparently set 17 years before the events that Wolverine goes through in the X-Men movies. Here ya go...


Something small about the upcoming Wolverine movie.

Brian Cox was on a BBC programme, Film 2007 talking about Running With Scissors, the presenter Jonathan Ross asked him about Wolverine to which Cox replied, 'it's set seventeen years ago, which is fine for Hugh Jackman as Wolverine doesn't age but for me, I'm thinking they could what they did with Patrick and Ian for the start of the third one. I know my character is in it, they've asked me to be in it but that was a while ago now, it's completely stalled so no start date as yet.'

Adrian


What the crap does he mean by "completely stalled" ?!!! Has Marvel actually put Wolverine on the back burner to concentrate more on movies like Ant Man and Namor? I thought Marvel was in the business of making money. At least we now know Stryker is included in the movie now, bringing the total number of confirmed characters to...

uh...

two.


__________________
"Keep pokin, Gumbo. I'm dyin' t'poke back."

Old Post Feb 10th, 2007 05:56 PM
Sabretooth is currently offline Click here to Send Sabretooth a Private Message Find more posts by Sabretooth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
RogueWitch
In Total Control

Gender: Female
Location: Right behind you...

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Sabretooth
What the crap does he mean by "completely stalled" ?!!! Has Marvel actually put Wolverine on the back burner to concentrate more on movies like Ant Man and Namor? I thought Marvel was in the business of making money. At least we now know Stryker is included in the movie now, bringing the total number of confirmed characters to...

uh...

two.



hehe wink

but if the wolverine movie really has to be good, basically the script has to be outstanding and the director brilliant otherwise they're just gonna screw it all up and make a film about ant man and just the name sounds horrible.

Besides they have to put some interesting characters into it... meaning not deathstrike cause they've used her up already and in X2 Logan didn't sort of know her...

I dunno but i think deathstrike isn't such an appealing choice...erm


__________________

Old Post Feb 12th, 2007 10:56 AM
RogueWitch is currently offline Click here to Send RogueWitch a Private Message Find more posts by RogueWitch Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sabretooth
I was dead. I got better.

Gender: Male
Location: Right behind you RUNT!

quote: (post)
www.mtv.com Mar 21, 2007

Could Sabretooth be plotting to take another bite out of Hugh Jackman? According to massive actor/wrestler Tyler Mane, discussions are under way to have his evil mutant from the original "X-Men" movie return for the highly anticipated Wolverine spinoff flick. "We will see," an optimistic Mane revealed recently. "There is talk of a Wolverine-Sabretooth [plot], and we will see what happens with that." Mane might have some competition from Vinnie Jones, however, who has insisted in the past that his Juggernaut will be the target of those famed adamantium claws. Nevertheless, Mane's comments would seem to support fans who believe the prequel will have Logan seeking revenge against Victor Creed — who eventually became Sabretooth in the "X-Men" comic book series. "We will see," Mane said cryptically. "You never know." ...


JUGGERNAUT?!!! Stay out of this Vinnie, it doesn't concern you.

PLEASE Marvel don't screw this up by casting the wrong villain as Wolverine's arch-nemesis.


__________________
"Keep pokin, Gumbo. I'm dyin' t'poke back."

Old Post Mar 23rd, 2007 04:43 AM
Sabretooth is currently offline Click here to Send Sabretooth a Private Message Find more posts by Sabretooth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
BruceSkywalker
The BatLord of the Jedi

Gender: Male
Location: The Batcave

I hope Logan or James fights either Sabretooth or The Silver Samurai? Maybe Juggernaut?


__________________


THE TRIAL NEVER ENDS...thanks steve

Old Post Mar 23rd, 2007 07:45 PM
BruceSkywalker is currently offline Click here to Send BruceSkywalker a Private Message Find more posts by BruceSkywalker Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
starlock
Team Authority

Gender: Male
Location: +40° 36' 5.70", -73° 57' 49.46

i hope i am not ruining this thread but...

has anyone watched the deleted scenes in Xmen 3-it shows an extended fight with wolvie and storm,against juggy and calisto in jeans old house
very cool


__________________

http://www.thedeadlyaddictionschronicles.com/

Old Post Mar 23rd, 2007 07:55 PM
starlock is currently offline Click here to Send starlock a Private Message Find more posts by starlock Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sabretooth
I was dead. I got better.

Gender: Male
Location: Right behind you RUNT!

quote: (post)
Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
I hope Logan or James fights either Sabretooth or The Silver Samurai? Maybe Juggernaut?


Personally, I would prefer if Marvel used villains from Wolverine's rogues gallery like Sabretooth or Cyber or Sabretooth or Silver Samurai or Sabretooth or Omega Red or Sabretooth. Juggernaut is a fine villain for the X-Men (Colossus in particular), but not really what I expect to see when I open a Wolverine comic.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by starlock
i hope i am not ruining this thread but...

has anyone watched the deleted scenes in Xmen 3-it shows an extended fight with wolvie and storm,against juggy and calisto in jeans old house
very cool


Saw it. Enjoyed it. I thought the Wolverine/Deathstrike fight and the X-Mansion invasion scenes were both choreographed better though.


__________________
"Keep pokin, Gumbo. I'm dyin' t'poke back."

Old Post Mar 24th, 2007 01:16 AM
Sabretooth is currently offline Click here to Send Sabretooth a Private Message Find more posts by Sabretooth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Wolverine2006
X-man

Gender: Male
Location: United States

I read a review of the script it said Sabretooth had a big part in it....google Wolverine script review I think the site it latinoreview.com but I'm not sure. It does have a few spoilers in it thought.


__________________

Old Post Mar 24th, 2007 04:31 AM
Wolverine2006 is currently offline Click here to Send Wolverine2006 a Private Message Find more posts by Wolverine2006 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sabretooth
I was dead. I got better.

Gender: Male
Location: Right behind you RUNT!

***ATTENTION***

This update contains SPOILERS, so don't whine at me if you keep reading and ruin the movie for yourself:
quote: (post)
http://www.filmick.co.uk Apr 28, 2007
Wolverine Script Review

By now, I'm sure you know how I like to do script reviews. I like to fill them with excerpts. I like to show you just what the script is made of. If I can, I even resort to big swathes of cut and paste, because I know what I'd want to see in a script review.

Unfortunately, this time, I'm not going to be able to do that. Yesterday, I had a hard copy of David Benioff's Wolverine script in my hands. Right now, I do not.

[EDIT: I've been promised a copy of the script from another source in just a few hours. If that goes to plan, they'll give me the go ahead to use their copy as the source for as many excerpts and spoilers as I please. In the meantime, here's an overview of the film - and a critical appraisal]

But I remember details well, so there's still plenty to tell you. I've been warned to avoid spoilers, so I'll do my best - but some of the set-up will have to be discussed, and you need to know which characters appear, don't you? Sure you do. How on earth can I tell you anything meaningful about the story otherwise.

The story is a short one, really, and not much happens - certainly in comparison to the X-Men films. And it's a prequel: we begin with a pre-Adamantium Logan, go through his alteration at the hands of Stryker into Weapon X and then set him free to wander alone until Singer's first X-Men will pick up the pieces. As such, there's no role for Anna Paquin as Rogue, so her interview comments about her willingness to participate in the film are entirely moot. Sorry Anna, you're out in the cold - and a whole load of less interesting characters are in.

The film opens with a joint flashback-come dream-sequence in which Logan, aged 12, gets into an almighty ruckus with some jock types. He has big sharp claws and regenerative capabilities, the jocks do not, the outcome is inevitable.

Waking from this dream, Logan has shredded his bed sheets in his sleep. This scene is where we meet his partner, Kayla Silverfox, a full-blodded Innu. She's underwritten but given pseudo-insightful folkloric references to make and a plot Maguffin role to fulfill.

Before very long, we find out that Victor Creed, never once called Sabretooth, is hunting and killing mutants. Why? Because he's naughty. Beak - a Morrison mutant - makes a short appearance in a Creed scene. He doesn't have claws either, so the outcome is again inevitable.

Essentially, the lose plot is this: Stryker tracks Logan down, takes him to Alkali lake and gives him his adamantium skeleton. The descriptions of this painful procedure (to say the least) are bang-on accurate to the flashback nightmares - seems that logan has a lot of those! - in the Singer films. This was very respectful, I thought.

Of course, it happens that the Wolverine is tougher than even Stryker anticipated and, now encased in his virtually indestructible adamantium, and with claws more deadly than ever before, Logan just slashes his way out of the facility at Alkali lake. He'll return later and make even more of a mess - I'm not sure it is left in a state perfectly in continuity with Singer's films, but then again, I'm not sure it isn't - the details are quite vague.

Brian Cox has mentioned how the Wolverine script was set seventeen years before X2. There's no way to pin it down to an exact seventeen years - actually, in all honesty, it could wrap up very shortly before the first X-Men film begins. I think that is likely to be the way they go with this - so Jackman can play the part reasonably. And that way, Cox could quite happily reprise Stalker, no silly make up or digital de-aging required.

Logan's hunt for Creed takes up a healthy share of the page count. Barely drawn, throwaway characters are written in and killed before they nose past the cliche-spouting cypher stage. There's a Mos Eisley bar for Mutants, if you know what I mean - or maybe something more like the Vampire nightclub in Blade (this is where some chap called Barbarus turns up). My point is, essentially, this is very generic stuff, from top to bottom.

Are there any 'twists'? Well, some of the betrayals that come later are utterly predictable but still feel disappointing as they play out. Oh, and, while we're on the subject, faked-deaths that require heart-rate slowing injections and bags of blood being spilled should have been outlawed some time ago, really. Yawn.

Lip-service is paid to the idea of a Mutant war, and a few moral conundra are alluded to, seemingly insincerely and without any gravitas or insight. The whole thing seems like a light, shallow and pointless retread of bits and pieces from X2 - like off-cut scenes plucked from the dumper. This script might aim to be the Godfather II to X2's Godfather I, heading into the past and revealing more details, but it has so little to say, and is so utterly devoid of invention or surprise, the whole trip seems completely redundant. These might have been the deleted scenes from a tedious, excised subplot in a three hour cut of X2.

I'm quite sure that Jackman will come out of this very well, and Cox too. Even though their dialogue is far from special, and often rather woeful, to hear it spoken in their voices, given their particular cadences and personal timing choices, it will play much better than it reads.

And the badness doesn't stop there. There's a lot of bad logic too - "You brainwashed me to love you, but then you went off and I kept loving you, therefore the brainwashing was irrelevant, I really do love you". Explain that one to me if you will. If I brought you up to speak Spanish and I left the room you wouldn't suddenly start talking Dutch, would you? That's one important plot point that makes no sense whatsoever. Brainwashed is brainwashed.

Another truly silly moment? A character claims that they aren't frightened of dying and they are asked how they know because they haven't died before. I mean, that would have worked if they said they weren't frightened of death, but of course they'll know if they're frightened of dying or not. Think about it: only actually dying is going to negate that one, not being alive. Bad.

The most interesting detail for me is a fairly inconspicuous reference to the Ultramax prison - a prison for supervillains, the baddest of the bad mutants. I wonder if Justin Marks had read this script before cooking up his Green Arrow/Super-Max pitch?

So, I've wandered around and meandered a bit and not been able to go into anything like the detail I wanted to but, well, I think I've said enough. Botom line? This is a bad script and the best we could hope for is a mediocre, moderately entertaining, but by no means memorable, valuable or cherishable film.

Time to get a new writer in? Yeah, if there was any intent to make anything more than a cash-in, cop-out cheat of a film.

// posted by Brendon @ 10:17 AM

I'm sure I'm heavily biased here, but I think "cash-in, cop-out cheat of a film" is a bit harsh. It sounds to me like the overall story is almost exactly what I was expecting, but the dialogue needs to be tweaked some. At least they're being faithful to the continuity established in the previous movies. Maybe Marvel "accidentally" leaked the script to gauge public reaction. If so, I'll be interested to see how much of the script changes before shooting starts because of negative reviews like the one above.


__________________
"Keep pokin, Gumbo. I'm dyin' t'poke back."

Old Post Apr 30th, 2007 06:23 AM
Sabretooth is currently offline Click here to Send Sabretooth a Private Message Find more posts by Sabretooth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sabretooth
I was dead. I got better.

Gender: Male
Location: Right behind you RUNT!

quote: (post)
http://www.variety.com Jul 19th, 2007
Fox says Hood good for 'Wolverine'
'Tsotsi' director takes on 'X-Men' spin-off film

By MICHAEL FLEMING, PETER GILSTRAP

Twentieth Century Fox has set Gavin Hood to direct Hugh Jackman in "Wolverine," the "X-Men" spin-off film that was scripted by David Benioff.

Pic, which begins production in November for 2008 release, will be produced by Lauren Shuler-Donner, Jackman and his Seed Prods. partner John Palermo.

Hood is the South African director whose 2005 film "Tsotsi" won the foreign film Oscar. He was among several hot young directors vying for "Wolverine" and sources said Fox brass was swayed after viewing his latest film, "Rendition," the politically charged New Line drama starring Reese Witherspoon, Jake Gyllenhaal, Meryl Streep and Peter Sarsgaard. It opens Oct. 19 and premieres at Toronto.

Using several resources that include the Marvel Comics lore, along with the more recent Weapon X graphic novels by Barry Windsor-Smith and work by Frank Miller, "Wolverine" mixes action with an origin story about how Logan emerged from a barbaric experiment as an indestructible mutant with retractable razor-sharp claws.

After three "X-Men" films grossed over $1 billion worldwide, studio has made "Wolverine" a top priority.

"I have long been a fan of Gavin's work and know he will make a masterful film with the character intensity and action beats the fans expect," said Jackman.

Hood’s repped by WMA and Anonymous Content.

Date in print: Fri., Jul. 20, 2007, Los Angeles


Honestly, I've never seen anything by this Hood guy so I have no opinion about him one way or the other. I'm just happy we finally have a set shooting schedule and approximate release date.


__________________
"Keep pokin, Gumbo. I'm dyin' t'poke back."

Old Post Jul 23rd, 2007 01:05 AM
Sabretooth is currently offline Click here to Send Sabretooth a Private Message Find more posts by Sabretooth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
supreme_being
Senior Member

Gender:
Location: United Kingdom

hey i heard somewhere that:
Sabertooth
Lady Deathstrike
William Stryker
Weapon X
Omega Red
are all to appear in the wolverine movie.
any confirm?

Old Post Jul 23rd, 2007 09:11 PM
supreme_being is currently offline Click here to Send supreme_being a Private Message Find more posts by supreme_being Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
masterpiece
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location:

wasn't Deadpool part of Weapon X


__________________
www.sowhowins.com

Old Post Jul 24th, 2007 03:38 AM
masterpiece is currently offline Click here to Send masterpiece a Private Message Find more posts by masterpiece Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sabretooth
I was dead. I got better.

Gender: Male
Location: Right behind you RUNT!

quote: (post)
Originally posted by supreme_being
hey i heard somewhere that:
Sabertooth
Lady Deathstrike
William Stryker
Weapon X
Omega Red
are all to appear in the wolverine movie.
any confirm?


So far, The only confirmed actors are Jackman as Wolverine and Cox as Stryker. The script leaked on the Internet also included Sabretooth and Silver Fox, but whether or not Tyler Mane will play Sabretooth is still unanswered. No word yet on who will play Silver Fox.


quote: (post)
Originally posted by masterpiece
wasn't Deadpool part of Weapon X


Sort of. Deadpool was part of the Weapon X program several years after the original members: Wolverine, Sabretooth, Silver Fox, Wildcat (Maverick), Kestral (John Wraith), Grizzly, Mastadon and Vole.

Deadpool was part of a second, smaller group of agents that included Himself, Garrison Kane, Ajax, Slayback, and Sluggo. In my opinion, this was an attempt by Rob Liefeld to capitalize off Wolverine's popularity by using several characters associated with Wolverine's past in his comic X-Force. and was the beginning of the end for this storyline. Liefeld did give us Cable and Deadpool though, so I'll forgive him for trying to gain readers the cheap way.

There has since been lots of information about the Weapon X Program but I can't help you there because it started getting too stupid for me to follow anymore. I think the way it now works is that Wolverine is actually "Weapon Ten" not "Weapon X" and Weapon Eleven, and Weapon Twelve, etc... exist as well. There is also something in there about "Weapon Plus" and Captain America, but Marvel is just doing what Liefeld did back in the '90s but to a much larger degree.


__________________
"Keep pokin, Gumbo. I'm dyin' t'poke back."

Old Post Jul 24th, 2007 05:40 AM
Sabretooth is currently offline Click here to Send Sabretooth a Private Message Find more posts by Sabretooth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sabretooth
I was dead. I got better.

Gender: Male
Location: Right behind you RUNT!

quote: (post)
http://xmenfilms.net Jul 23rd, 2007
‘Origins’ Included In Titles?

Are the upcoming X-Men spin-off films using ‘Origins’ in their titles? Here’s something very interesting. Type in wolverineorigins.com or magnetoorigins.com and you’ll get directed to 20th Century Fox’s official website!

We’ve found that the studio registered these domain names in June of this year, so we might be looking at the preliminary names for the spin-offs of Wolverine and Magneto!

Really, it might be too early to know if these are the official film titles, but it’s definitely something to chew on.


"Wolverine: Origins"? I guess it could be worse. Personally, I don't think the title needs to be anything more than "Wolverine". Let's see if it's even the official title in the first place.


__________________
"Keep pokin, Gumbo. I'm dyin' t'poke back."

Old Post Jul 26th, 2007 12:50 AM
Sabretooth is currently offline Click here to Send Sabretooth a Private Message Find more posts by Sabretooth Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Kal-El_08
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: Wouldn't you like to know

Account Restricted

Wolverine Spin-Off

I think that this film has potential to be great. I'll be happy if either Tyler Mane returns as Sabretooth or Vinnie Jones returns as the Juggernaut. Two people I'd like to see are the Wendigo & the Hulk but it's unlikely for either to appear, especially since the Hulk has his own film coming out next year.


__________________
"It wasn't even about the eggs. Quite frankly I like the eggs, I don't have no...problem with...It's just there's always been a lot of tension between me & Lois. It's not so much as I want to kill her...I just want her...to not be...alive anymore. I sometimes wonder if all women are this difficult. Then I think to myself, wouldn't it be MARVELOUS if I turned out to be a homosexual?"

Old Post Aug 23rd, 2007 06:22 AM
Kal-El_08 is currently offline Click here to Send Kal-El_08 a Private Message Find more posts by Kal-El_08 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Kazenji
Onyx Prime

Gender: Male
Location: Australia

I would like to see Brett ratner replaced with a better director for this film.


__________________

Old Post Aug 23rd, 2007 06:45 AM
Kazenji is currently offline Click here to Send Kazenji a Private Message Find more posts by Kazenji Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Kal-El_08
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: Wouldn't you like to know

Account Restricted

Brett Ratner isn't even directing this film anyway.


__________________
"It wasn't even about the eggs. Quite frankly I like the eggs, I don't have no...problem with...It's just there's always been a lot of tension between me & Lois. It's not so much as I want to kill her...I just want her...to not be...alive anymore. I sometimes wonder if all women are this difficult. Then I think to myself, wouldn't it be MARVELOUS if I turned out to be a homosexual?"

Old Post Aug 23rd, 2007 06:53 AM
Kal-El_08 is currently offline Click here to Send Kal-El_08 a Private Message Find more posts by Kal-El_08 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Kazenji
Onyx Prime

Gender: Male
Location: Australia

Thank god for that, The guy that they have chosen "gavin hood" has done a couple of films not sure what they're like


Seems william stryker is in the script but brian cox (who played him) is unsure of returning

quote:
Brian Cox said William Stryker is in the script and the film is set seventeen years before X-Men, but is unsure of whether he'll return

Last edited by Kazenji on Aug 23rd, 2007 at 12:03 PM

Old Post Aug 23rd, 2007 11:55 AM
Kazenji is currently offline Click here to Send Kazenji a Private Message Find more posts by Kazenji Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
roughrider
Thunderer

Gender: Male
Location: Canada

I believe Tyler Mane is returning to play Sabretooth.
They are combining elements of Wolverine's first limited series with the Origin & Weapon X storyline.


__________________

"I'm not smart so much as I am not dumb." - Harlan Ellison

Old Post Aug 23rd, 2007 03:46 PM
roughrider is currently offline Click here to Send roughrider a Private Message Find more posts by roughrider Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Kal-El_08
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: Wouldn't you like to know

Account Restricted

I'd love it if the film focuses as much on Sabretooth as it will on Wolverine.


__________________
"It wasn't even about the eggs. Quite frankly I like the eggs, I don't have no...problem with...It's just there's always been a lot of tension between me & Lois. It's not so much as I want to kill her...I just want her...to not be...alive anymore. I sometimes wonder if all women are this difficult. Then I think to myself, wouldn't it be MARVELOUS if I turned out to be a homosexual?"

Old Post Aug 23rd, 2007 07:03 PM
Kal-El_08 is currently offline Click here to Send Kal-El_08 a Private Message Find more posts by Kal-El_08 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
BruceSkywalker
The BatLord of the Jedi

Gender: Male
Location: The Batcave

The Silver Samurai may be in it.


__________________


THE TRIAL NEVER ENDS...thanks steve

Old Post Aug 23rd, 2007 07:17 PM
BruceSkywalker is currently offline Click here to Send BruceSkywalker a Private Message Find more posts by BruceSkywalker Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 02:10 AM.
Pages (55): « First ... « 6 7 [8] 9 10 » ... Last »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Home » Comic Book Forums » X-Men » X-Men Origins: Wolverine

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.