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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
again your using completely different arguement that are not comparable and trying to make them so. Ninja turtles have numerous apearences, they don't have feats of them being stated as superior to character and then showing it who then have feats that match all of wolverine. It not the same at all, come on your smarter then this.


I already posted one, were he stated and shows he faster then wolverine. that in it self is a feat, I dont get why you don't see this.
I'm not smarter than that. They have much less in the way of comic piss feats.


I know Creed is faster, but that is a statement. Spider-Man states he's 40x faster than a human, Reed says 15x. Wolverine said Spider-Man can break his neck. Wolverine was called simply a brawler.

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm not smarter than that. They have much less in the way of comic piss feats.


I know Creed is faster, but that is a statement. Spider-Man states he's 40x faster than a human, Reed says 15x. Wolverine said Spider-Man can break his neck. Wolverine was called simply a brawler.

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perhaps I over estimated you stick out tongue

The reason they don't have these feats is becuase there not that good, They have numerous apearences and still have comics coming out to this day. That not the same as sabre-tooth at all.


You don't get it. He stated it, wolverine stated it, the narrative stated it which I have presented in this very thread, and he proved it. There not simply statements, there proven fact. It not hyperbole statement by a character, it fact stated by narrative and shown on pannel numerous times. .

Same thing with Liazard, are we to assume he avstly slower then Blade, because he has no projectile dodging feats?

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You shouldn't have.

They have good feats. It's a matter of flagship characters having more. We use feats here, we can't flip flop on that rule master debator. You don't have to call me stupid because I don't get it.


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You shouldn't have.

They have good feats. It's a matter of flagship characters having more. We use feats here, we can't flip flop on that rule master debator.

not really, there feats arnt even elite street. we had this debate and you tried posting volume 1 and 2 of the turtle which had them doing nothing by fighting common thugs mostly. Turtles feats are garbage. current runs are the only things even comparable to elite street characters and even then nothing that even hits there high end feats. turtles best feats are mid level elite street.


I not flip floping at all. Sabre-tooth has proven and stated to be faster then wolverine. That clearly shows his level of speed. how am I flip floping?

again i notice you keep ignoring my lizard refference. so what you believe blade is vastly faster then lizard now?

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Going by Dum Dum's logic Creed is faster than Wolverine who is as fast as Spidey which makes Creed faster than Spidey.

Gets better everyday.

That's not exclusive to triple D's logic.. It's how things are portrayed by Marvel comics.. I love how people are going to sit here and pretend otherwise though.


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Originally posted by Mindset
Are there even thousands of spider-man comics?

Yes.


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That's not exclusive to triple D's logic.. It's how things are portrayed by Marvel comics.. I love how people are going to sit here and pretend otherwise though.

also love how people keep pretending sabre-tooth showing he faster been stated by himself, wolverien and narrative is not a feat of speed.......lol



also I can pretty much garentee if this was Lizard there would be no one even argueing against lizard being as fast and faster then blade, but of course anything concern wolverine must be argued to death before it acknowledged lol.

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I'm not smarter than that. They have much less in the way of comic piss feats.


I know Creed is faster, but that is a statement. Spider-Man states he's 40x faster than a human, Reed says 15x. Wolverine said Spider-Man can break his neck. Wolverine was called simply a brawler.

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It's not just a statement... It's been in narrative.


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not really, there feats arnt even elite street. we had this debate and you tried posting volume 1 and 2 of the turtle which had them doing nothing by fighting common thugs mostly. Turtles feats are garbage. current runs are the only things even comparable to elite street characters and even then nothing that even hits there high end feats. turtles best feats are mid level elite street.


I not flip floping at all. Sabre-tooth has proven and stated to be faster then wolverine. That clearly shows his level of speed. how am I flip floping?

again i notice you keep ignoring my lizard refference. so what you believe blade is vastly faster then lizard now?
What? I posted some feats of them dodging "lasers" in a fight. They weren't common thugs by any means. Better than that canon fodder stuff that's posted on here. As we mentioned before the Forever movie put everything canon as one interactive universe anyways. They have muuuch more to draw from and are more flushed out.

Because we're using a feat contest with one character and not with another. Now we are comparing that character to a "weaker" version which isn't allowed.


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You shouldn't have.

They have good feats. It's a matter of flagship characters having more. We use feats here, we can't flip flop on that rule master debator. You don't have to call me stupid because I don't get it.


So blades faster than Lizard?


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It's not just a statement... It's been in narrative.
I'm sure there are instances I put in narrative.

I'm not even arguing Creed being faster than Logan. I'm just waiting on the feats that usually come about in other debates.


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So blades faster than Lizard?
Possibly, though you'll have to jump back to where the lizard came in as I wasn't paying it much attention.


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Again all his feats are inclusive of his performances against other characters... We've already made mention of his feats against Spiderman himself and people felt apt to dismiss it.

Using Wolverine as a bar is the most logical thing to do with a character that doesn't have fodder feats at random...

By the argumentation you're proposing Blade's faster than Lizard.


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Again all his feats are inclusive of his performances against other characters... We've already made mention of his feats against Spiderman himself and people felt apt to dismiss it.

Using Wolverine as a bar is the most logical thing to do with a character that doesn't have fodder feats at random...

By the argumentation you're proposing Blade's faster than Lizard.
The "blitzing" while Spider-Man was running his flap isn't congruent to what would go on in a KMC matchup as there would be no posturing. The problem with using such logic is that everything is so situational, when you cross it over between other characters it becomes a mess.

Spider-Man came in and put the X-Men on their ass before. He used his speed obviously and it is a greater feat by far. There were situations in it however regardless of whether either party likes either feat.

I was trying to stay on topic though. So here is my best shot:



With Blade and Sabes. I see Sabes having an advantage if Blade doesn't have any gear. Blade's luck depends on what gear he's using IMO.


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He's the same as Sabretooth in a sense. He has limited appearances and it isn't wafting with random speed feats. We get his speed levels from his performances.


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Yes.
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He's the same as Sabretooth in a sense. He has limited appearances and it isn't wafting with random speed feats. We get his speed levels from his performances.
On topic, where do you see Blade and Sabes? You think Sabes stomps amirite?


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What? I posted some feats of them dodging "lasers" in a fight. They weren't common thugs by any means. Better than that canon fodder stuff that's posted on here.

No you dident, in fact all you showed was them fighting a few thugs and you even acknolwedge that they werent that impressive. But said there was likely more impressiv eones, but did not have the time to look, but told me to feel free to look myself. Which i did and I already read them and new I would not find anything. You might be refferring to another debate with someone elses, but you posted no such thing with me.

dude turtles cannon fodder are the worst....honestly man when was the last time you read there comics? espically there old stuff, nothing in there is impressive by any means, in fact most of it drawn like a little kid did it.


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As we mentioned before the Forever movie put everything canon as one interactive universe anyways. They have muuuch more to draw from and are more flushed out.

again cna you even prove thats cannon? also the fact that there all different turtles from different realities proves that not cannon to eachother. Them meeting up proves that there not all the same characters. Because that would be impossiable, you would be unable to get 3 raphs, leo ect. If they were all a single character from single cannon.

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Because we're using a feat contest with one character and not with another. Now we are comparing that character to a "weaker" version which isn't allowed.

Again it different. Sabre-tooth feat is that he is faster then wolverine. Thats his feat. posting blade dodging bullets or some such does not make him faster then sabre-tooth, becuase he alreayd know sabre-tooth is faster then soemone who can complete all those feats and has.

again were still relying on characters feats.


again I notice that your ignoring lizard comment, because well lets be frank you know im right and you dont have arguement for it.

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The "blitzing" while Spider-Man was running his flap isn't congruent to what would go on in a KMC matchup as there would be no posturing. The problem with using such logic is that everything is so situational, when you cross it over between other characters it becomes a mess.

Well, that's what I'm getting at. We can't just put up a bunch of Sabretooth speed feats because the majority of them come from performances.

It's easy to dismiss them due to situational mumbojumbo which is why I'll say again, being faster than Sabretooth IS a speed feat and it gives us an idea of what Blade's dealing with...


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Originally posted by Mindset
source?
Spiderman.org? confused


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