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Why is not going to church every sunday a sin to the christens?
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Bardock42
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^thats a good reason, but well the one true church, belives that church is important .


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Okay, think of it this way Bardock42...if God told us that we missed one day of Church, that we'd be going to Hell for doing so. In that world, no one would be saved. Fellowship with other Christians is an encouragement, so Christians can be with people like them to feast their minds on the word of God, and for better understanding of it. I go because I enjoy it. I'm not Catholic, that's probably why I think like that. I'm a Baptist.

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I'm not Catholic, that's probably why I think like that. I'm a Baptist.
you think catholic is the opposite of how you see it, from my time in Arkansas the most conservative christians I met were baptists

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well I don'T think anyone in this world is truly worth to be saved, so no problem with that.


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Well you're right in thinking that. Because, in Christian standards, all have fallen short. But, Christ is the bridge.

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Men fall short of the Glory of God; NOT through Christian standards, but God's standards.

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Noone will come to save us anyway


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Men fall short of the Glory of God; NOT through Christian standards, but God's standards.
standards set by the vatican so it is indeed a christian standard

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God never said to go to church on Sunday. The Catholic church did. Read the 10 commandments. Gods day is Saturday, the Sabbath. A rest day which many do go to church, because they always have. The Bible talks about it all through the New Test.

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Read the 10 commandments. Gods day is Saturday, the Sabbath.
the jews choose the saturday as their sabbath and the 10 commandment s were made by the jews so.........
Sabbath is a hebrew word meaning something like "rest from labour" and it was set to be the 7th day of the week. When the 7th day is depends on what you consider to be the first day of the week.

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A rest day which many do go to church, because they always have
or forced too

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All the disciples kept the Sabbath years after Jesus' death. Even Luke who was a gentile. If you study history you;ll find that even after the Bible was in scripts people were still keeping it until the Catholic church starting persecuting them. Besides according to Paul there is no Jew or gentile, male or female. We are all graphed into ONE tree. The tree that was already there for Gods people. The Jews didn't make the Sabbath. In Geneses when the 7th day is mentioned as the Sabbath, there were no Jews......Also it says the the Sabbath was made for man (not Jew)......

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again since you obviously dont understand what I wrote. The jews choose Saturday as THEIR sabbath, regardless of how you twist it Sabbath is still a hebrew word. Most christians have Sunday as THEIR sabbath, muslims have Friday.
To write it in a matter you might understand, Sabbath can be whatever day of the week you want it to be, but the Jews choose Saturday. Acording tot he bible god never said Sabbath had to be on a Saturday it was said that the 7th day was rest day

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The official Jewish Sabbath starts at sundown on Friday and continues until sundown obn Saturday.... remember that the Jewish day begins in darkness, just as the world did... the Christian "sabbath" of Sunday came about as part of the drive to unite the Christian factions of the Roman empire with the worshippers of Sol Invictus, the Sun God... under Constantine the Great, these were the two most powerful factions, and Constantine wanted them both on his side.... also there was a lot of anti semitic feeling on both sides, and Christians were ordered not to "Judaize," or appear Jewish. This ended the ritual of circumcision for Christians (to which the Greek Christians had objected for a long time ) ended the distinction between clean and unclean meats and led to the Christian Holy Day being coincident with the holy day of the Sun.... so the moving of the day of rest to Sunday was both a political and an anti-Jewish measure...


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True! The Jews didn't CHOSE the Sabbath. God did. It was changed by The Holy See, Catholic church around 324 ad.

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Study disposationiaism. This view seperating the Jews and gentiles is pretty new and started around the 1850's with Darby and Scolfield.
The view has always been we have all been grafted into the originial tree.
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True! The Jews didn't CHOSE the Sabbath. God did
the jews chose what day the sabbath was on, and I dont believe in any god so yes they chose and invented the entire sabbath thingie

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the jews chose what day the sabbath was on, and I dont believe in any god so yes they chose and invented the entire sabbath thingie


your personal thoughts on it, your opinion, doesnt give any help to the question of this thread and is not based on biblical backgrounds (whats it supposed to be in this thread... see "christens" in its title...)

so you cant say they chose what day the sabbath was on, because that god invented the sabbath and the jews kept it always on the 7th day is neither proven right or wrong... according to the belief of jews and christians... god invented the sabbath and set it on the day we know today as saturday.

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according to the belief of jews and christians... god invented the sabbath and set it on the day we know today as saturday.
strange thing that the christiansns strayed away from the rest day god set then

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your personal thoughts on it, your opinion, doesnt give any help to the question of this thread and is not based on biblical backgrounds (whats it supposed to be in this thread... see "christens" in its title...)
the sabbath to be on the 7th day is in fact biblical background

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so you cant say they chose what day the sabbath was on, because that god invented the sabbath and the jews kept it always on the 7th day is neither proven right or wrong
and since it aint proven right or wrong I can say they chose what day sabbath was on cause I believe the Jews chose what we know today as Saturday as their day of Sabbath.

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Originally posted by finti
strange thing that the christiansns strayed away from the rest day god set then


but that doesnt change a thing with the biblical fact that god set the day on the sabbath

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the sabbath to be on the 7th day is in fact biblical background


yes, but it aint biblical background that the jews invented the sabbath... that was what i meant..

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and since it aint proven right or wrong I can say they chose what day sabbath was on cause I believe the Jews chose what we know today as Saturday as their day of Sabbath.


as i can say god set the day on sabbath and saturday equals sabbath...

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.......i say sabbath was the day set to be the day it was

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