HAHAHAH logical fight my ass. So even if we gave capt the benefit of the doubt and said he equal to wolveirne ine every area asside damage soak which he aint then giving capt any wins would still be retarded when the guy he facing dmaage soak is 100 times his own.
except they fought 3 times one never got to fruition and still capt praised wolverine. Then they fought again and wolverine was ind controlled and still capt best shots did nothing and he ended at a disadvantage. Then wait they fought again and wolverine healing factor was extremely taxed got a blood clot form wolverine and could not continue........
as for dumbgo or whatever he calls him self as usual he vastly underates wolverine what a shocker
I am so surprized.........
Iceman hahahahahaha oh I still laughing oh god I hope ur kidding, it just be rediuclously hypocritical if you arnt
Your characterization of 1st fight is accurate to my knowledge. Your characterization of the 2nd fight is jaundiced since Cap wasn't trying to fight Wolverine and a third party interfered. Your characterization of the 3rd fight is completely ridiculous if you're really trying to rely on the whole Wolverine's healing factor was taxed because of the fabricated "he-didn't-eat-or-sleep-myth."
Could have sworn you put me on ignore at one point, or pretended to.
Yet capt said i putting my all into the punch, nice capt could not put down a bone claws wolverine who was midn controll and acing like a wrewolf, and yet he beats normal wolverine 6/10 is absurd.
No I am saying it becuases way the same guy who had wolverine heal from a skeleton. His entire arc had wolverine running ragged to the point he had to eat his own arm to sustain him self, and repeatedly stated he had not slept, oh and wait for it he fought nuke and then got slashed with a sword he can't even heal from.............yea wolverine was clearly at 100%
I did, but your comments make he laugh to much so I took u off.
I never argued that Cap could one-shot Wolverine with his single best punch. So you're not really rebutting any position I've taken.
Care to engage in a controlled battle-zone as to whether Wolverine never ate or slept during the first story-arc of Wolverine: Origins #1-6? Hard to read my comments if you ignored me and thus blocked my posts from being seen.
No you were trying to imply capt was not trying his all to KO wolverine which is wrong he was.
Never tried to say he never did. I said he was running him self ragged which is a fact and he was not closes to 100% when he fought capt. I could cares less if he ate or not. I dont think he did personlly given origin and endings, but it be closes ti impossiable to prove either which way. Not debate I care to go into it be argue symantics and opinions.
I stopped blocking any ones posts two months ago. I been laughing since.
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Last edited by Battlehammer on Nov 5th, 2009 at 08:43 AM
Don't recall ever saying that Cap was not trying to KO Wolverine. But I also never argued that he could KO him in one shot. Which is an imaginary position you're trying to project onto me. And, which in turn you're deluding yourself into thinking you've rebutted. I never took that position. Therefore, you never rebutted a position of mine. Therefore, don't act as if you've proved anything. In simpler terms, don't put words into my mouth.
If it's not a debate you care to engage in with me, than don't offer it to me as if it's argumentative proof. Because all you're essentially saying is, "I think X is true. I don't care to argue with you about the truth of X. But based on the truth of X, you're wrong." That isn't cogent argumentation. That's just logical fallacy.
Feel free to put me on ignore again, or at least pretend to... again.
Really because this post from you below seems to imply just that.
So capt was not trying to fight wolverine, but was trying to KO him?
All I said was that Wolverine was not 100% before he fought capt which is true. You try to turn that into me saying wolverine had not eaten or slept in the entire arc. Now who projecting?
Naw I am having way to much fun watching you be a hypocrite.
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If someone's attacking me and I don't want to fight him but he won't get the hell off me, does me not trying to avoid fighting him necessarily preclude me from trying to KO him? Just because I don't want to fight him, doesn't mean I won't try to KO him to end the fight quickly if I'm forced to. And neither does this mean I must necessarily than be trying to KO him in one shot. You're either trying to pass off a false dichotomy off of a false dichotomy or you just completely confused yourself.
I'm not projecting. I'm remembering what you said about Wolverine: Origins #1-5: Get over yourself, bro.
I do since it can be compounded by more hits. Thus if Cap can achieve a 1 second ko he can achieve a 60 second one (by hitting him 60 times more while Logan is already koed).
^ I think you're conflating the idea of knocking out someone for 1 second and the idea of the possible opportunity that follows up on knocking out someone for 1 second.
When you knock someone out for 1 second, that doesn't necessarily mean you can immediately follow up and compound damage such that you're guaranteed a win. Think about two street fighters, Fighter A throws a haymaker and stumbles off-balance. He manages to knock out Fighter B for 1 second, but due to stumbling, he can't capitalize and jump on him when he's down. Fighter B, dazed, gets to his knees and manages to sustain some defense before Fighter A can take advantage.
From this simple scenario, it's evident that a 1 second knockout does not = win. 10 second knockout typically does. Because it's difficult to think that a character wouldn't be able to capitalize upon 10 seconds of unconsciousness. That's the standard I tend to play around with for knockouts anyway.
If Cap lands a good blow that can ko Logan then he of all people will certainly not stumble. But I get your point though. Lastly, in most real fights the fighter who is dazed don't usually come back in the fight.
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Nov 5th, 2009 06:12 AM
for the general idea.
Get over yourself, bro.
