It's a plot point that was brought up several times. If you think Wolverine was anywhere near perfect health going into the cap fight.. you're wrong.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
^ If you think Wolverine's "non-stop" quest for vengeance was literally non-stop...
... even though he actually stopped and sat around in his apartment and was sitting in airplanes and trains and gathering supplies throughout...
... then you're being shamelessly literal in interpreting the opening intro title pages and ignoring what actually happens on-panel in the books to engineer an excuse for what happened with Wolverine: he had a knock-down drag-out fight with Cap.
On panel in the book his fatigue was routinely brought up, and his healing factor was at opposite ends due to the plot point being brought up over and over.
He wasn't near 100% when he fought Cap, you think otherwise? Well, you're wrong.
Also @ you calling me shamelessly literal given some of the things you've attacked me for in the past.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Last edited by jinzin on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 10:16 PM
^ Attack? Let's not get all e-drama queen again. We're talking plot points. His fatigue was brought up and displayed on-panel when he chased after Silver Samurai and got shipped to Canada. By the time he was being tracked by Winter Soldier in Europe and dealing with Shiva in D.C. and actually waiting around in his NYC apartment for something to occur, i.e., Nuke being sent out to flush Wolverine out, Wolverine's fatigue was a non-factor and certainly not displayed on-panel.
Stop assuming your conclusion. We both know you tried to prove he didn't eat a bite or sleep a wink the entire time because you wanted to take intro title pages statements to their most absolutely fantastical literal sense and pretend that Woilverine was in his cannibalistic mode the entire time when he encountered Cap.
it's a plot point brought up before the fight, brought up after the fight, and mentioned in the write up DURING the fight.
Wolverine was not near 100%, noted repeatedly and proven.
You could not prove otherwise aside from your insistance. If you think Wolverine was near 100%? you're wrong.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
He wasent agreeing with your conclusion at all, only that cap is more skilled. Which is irrelevant, because it does not change the fact he can't magically make pressure points work.
he needs oxygen but it isnt near what a normal person needs. he can go without it for a long time and you have been told this repeatedly and shown scans proving it in the past.
if you dont agree with it that is on you dont bring into a forum without some form of counter evidence other than your own personal bias.
thank you DumDum for the quote or i wouldn't have seen it. some one needs to correct his constant misinformation.
Except when he had downtime to gather supplies when heading out from Serbia and when he had downtime and sat around in Brooklyn having exhausted his leads. It's a plot point brought up at the beginning of the story through to Canada. And this "plot point" is a statement that Logan is on a non-stop quest. I went to college 4 years "non-stop." That doesn't literally mean I didn't stop moving, or never ate or never slept. Stop being so literal to amplify Wolverine's feats. You're butchering English.
Enough with this "Wolverine-didn't-eat-a-bite-or-sleep-a-wink-in-Origins" myth. It's already been deconstructed. Phail.
No they said throat shots dont work, and have failed to numerous times. Such as fighting with swords through his neck, fighting despite having his throat ripped out ect.
He has a healing factor for a reason. Honestly why do you insist on not educating your self.
he had some time i agree but nothing sufficient to put him back to his normal levels. it's not like he is in a bath eating steak, potatoes and whatnot and meditating just cause he can or getting his full normal sleep..
he was on the move which kept him from actually taking advantage of what little time he had to recuperate and recharge himself back up to his prime.
Again it's a plot point brought up before AND after the fight with Cap. But in spite of being in the write up during the fight you think Wolverine was near 100%? Yeah, you're wrong. He wasn't, it was stated, back referenced and proven.
Stop being so hypocritical with your literal assertions. In the first place my references for Wolverine not sleeping or eating in that storyline were general statements. I clarified that I never assumed Wolverine didn't sleep a wink or eat a morsel in that entire timeframe, just that it wasn't enough to matter or keep him in good shape.
You think he was near 100% in that storyline, even though Way proved you wrong? Well.... you're wrong...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
^ Thanks for your "nuh uh" statement. Way to be completely literal and act like you have a leg to stand on. That myth has been deconstructed and it stays deconstructed. Don't make me break out my scans again. Wolverine doesn't need to take a bath eating steak, potatoes to be at normal levels. Christ.
Give me a break! He has time to shave, change clothes, ride on trains and airplanes, meditate and actually wait for clues to pop up so he could resume his quest... and somehow Wolverine wasn't at normal levels.
On one hand... you exalt Wolverine's healing factor as if it were Jesus-worthy. Then you unintentionally degrade his healing factor to reverse-justify some excuse you want to project in a fight. Enough with this phail.
Honestly can't believe anyone could or would side with deadline, after reading his arguments. They ridiculous.
He pretty much try to argue that pressure points working on namor hold more weight in an arguement about wolverine ability to withstand pressure point attacks, then wolverine own on pannel depictions of no selling pressure point attacks........
He was trying to act like were the ones being outragous, it really unbelievable the crap he posts.
Crom you need to go back to comic ledger were all you putz belong.
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"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Mar 2nd, 2011 10:10 PM
@ you calling me shamelessly literal given some of the things you've attacked me for in the past.
