He relies too much on his healing factor and he hardly shows any fighting skill. All he ever does is recklessly stab and slice.
The best version of Wolverine by far is the fallen samurai written by Claremont back in the 80's. When Claremont left, his character started to go downhill and I hated him ever since.
Cap is the *epitome* of raw fighting prowess. He hardly has any equal when it comes to hand to hand combat.
How, exactly, is cap going to stop Wolverine? I mean, it's not like Wolverine is goign to AIM for his shield, and if he raises it to block one strike, he's leaving another part of his body open for the other hand. Captain America's only chance is to K.O. Wolvie.
Wolvie only has to land one blow with his claws to weaken C.A. enough to kill him.
What's all this hosh-posh about C.A. being the best fighter on the planet!?!? Anyone dumb enough to lose in Roshambo OBVIOUSLY isn't the best fighter on the planet. Whenever I see C.A. in any comic besides his own, he's usualy sitting back behind his shield barking orders, or landing one or two blows with his shield.
Captain America wears armor. I can't recall if the armor is adamantium, but he can easily obtain adamantium armor if necessary. The fact of the matter is that he doesn't need it. He's too quick for Wolverine to successfully land a blow. Cap isn't the best fighter on the planet, but he's a better fighter than Wolverine.
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Ask a boxer or a serious martial artist if he'll break his hand when punching someone even in the hardest part of skull. You will get the same answer every time, NO!
Wolvie is fast but Cap isn't dumb enough to let Wolvie land a blow.
Cap does where an advanced mesh armor, but it is not adamantium. this does not matter cause he wouldn't let wolvie do more than scratch him.
Captain america is trained in more than 1 martial art. He's the master of many. Many more in fact than wolverine.
I'm calling it caps.
If it was a cage match I'd call it Wolvie, but no one specified any such thing. Cap is far more resourceful he'd take it time and time again on the streets or any situation out of a cage.
Master of many? Cap's trained in about 3 styles, 5 at the most. I don't know where the many styles thing came from, Wolverine would probably have more styles in that regard. But like I said, the number of styles you know don't mean a thing, it's how you use the styles you know, and they both use them damn well.
YES ! I'm talking about WOLVERINE, who has, for your information, an adamantium skull (sort of). Adamantium is extremely hard, much much harder than a brick wall.
All I ever said is that even the greatest martial artist breaks his hands (or at least seriously hurts his hand) while trying to punch Wolverine with all his strength. That is a fact, not an opinion. Ask Sabretooth if you don't believe me.
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Come on now Tron, you read my other post, I've continuously said that neither character has an advantage when it comes to fighting prowess. I may have exaggerated a wee bit, 5 sounds like pretty close to many to me, but to say that all Cap has is a crash course in military fighting is bullocks (you didn't say that, that other guy did.)
hey i didnt say thats ALL cap has, for ur information im a BIG fan of cap, and he has a lot of expirience because of all the fights that hes been through, but i already explained that logically and statistically, wolverine should win. but if u dont wanna believe that then its FINE!
"Ask a boxer or a serious martial artist if he'll break his hand when punching someone even in the hardest part of skull. You will get the same answer every time, NO!"
Allow me to field this being that I have 5, 4th degree black belts in (obviously) 5 martial arts. You grow more conditioned mentally and physically, to deal with hitting hard objects. However, wood and stuff is very very different to brick and metal. I broke my wrist the first time I tried to break a 4 inch thich ice slab (which I can get through now), and that was at black belt level.
well then u should agree with me on this that no matter how good ur technique or no matter how good u transfer ur energy to the object that u are about to hit, ull almost always hurt urself if u CANT break it{im into martial arts too u know}, and there is one thing that we know about adamantium and thats that it is indestructable. ofcourse there are a lot of other places on the body that cap can hit without direcly making contact with wolvies bones but still wolvie has the advantage, and any way, whats all this shit about cap bein too fast fer logan to be even remetely capable of hittin him, wolverine is quite capable of hittin a fast target, and cap isnt superhumanly strong, and also it might look like wolverine is just using his claws savagely without any precision or art but it only seems that way, he is one of earth's finest combatants, even without his adamantium skeleton and claws{bone or adamantium}
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Exactly Alpha, Cap being one of the best martial artist in the world would not break his hand.
Besides, While Wolvies skull may be adamantium, that doesn't mean that it isn't going to be pushed back when Cap hits him. It wouldn't be like hitting an immoble object at all. I'll smack an iron slab on a slinky with a cushion of skin and muscle.
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Who said logan would break his hand? And it is certain Cap wouldn't make a mistake? You know how i know? 'cause he's a character in a comic book and that's the way that he's written. They don't call him the fighting machine for nothing.
and even if cap doesnt make any miscalculations{which is very doubtfull cause wolverine knows cap just about better than any one}, still wolverine has the most advantages.
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