then why does he have so much trouble with thor in non-warrior maddness state???? doesnt make much sense now does it. brb has just as much potential as thor against hulk. also hulk has never won a battle against surfer. re-evaluate my friend. re-evaluate.
theres no reason for hulks rage to increase when he's tussling with someone thats having a problem with him, if thor would go warrior madness then hulk would start to get enraged till he see's fit and it'll even the odds
Thor was trouble for Hulk but thats about it...Hulk never fought him that angry either..warrior madness is exceptional for Thor...we should then consider Hulk in exceptionally pissed off mode...not regular every comic angry
how come everybody's seeming to forget the powers of mjolnir? basing from the comments that i read, you guys think this is gonna be some major fist fight. a really pissed off thor would use the full potentials of mjolnir on hulk, and because of this i do believe that thor has this in the bag.
Beta Ray Bill does not have as much potential as Thor. He has the strength of the Thunder God and the hammer, but he hasn't the experience nor the power of Thor. Thor is above Beta Ray and has been for years. As for Hulk, Thor is usually smarter and craftier. Hulk doesn't have that much trouble with him in a strength battle as their strength is fairly equal. Thor is more powerful, thus Hulk is going to have trouble on a power level, not a strength level.
i think you pick my posts on purpose, just to argue with me
yes he does......
experience can be learned. i said he had -potential- to be just as badass as thor. whats wrong with that??
only in skill. which isnt inherant. it is learned. BRB could be just as fierce if not more so.
yes but in all thors powers and strength regular hulk has trouble with him, and so does warrior maddness thor?? they both possess basically the same power and same strength IMO. there is no reason to think otherwise. unless somebody can provide me with issue numbers where he exhibited greater strength.
was it a 1 on 1 with thor having mjolnir and warrior madness? because this battle would be a PISSED OFF hulk against a PISSED OFF thor, so it really doesnt matter how strong beta ray is 1)because this battle has nothing to do with him and 2)we're talking about an enraged thor
they both possess the same strength, true, but as frothbyte said youre forgetting about mjolnir which would obviously tip the scales, seeing as thor always has mjolnir and hulk has no mjolnir of his own
Maestro, that was years ago. Thor has increased practically exponentially in power. Beta Ray Bill does not have the experience Thor has *he has thousands of years* nor does he have the potential that Thor has demonstrated. Thor is superior to Beta Ray in every way.
thats like saying Shang-Chi is not a better fighter than Thor because Thor is thousands of years older...Beta Ray bill is equal to or better than Thor is fighting ability...for some reason, the old Marvel stats also called beta ray bill more durable...I dont know why...but i do know BRB has a tendency to hang out with more of the cosmic types and demonstrated he is at least...just as cool as classic Thor
The more angry hulk gets, the stronger he gets. There is no defined upper limit on his strength. The Onslaught saga shows us that writers are willing to take it to however far they need.
Such cannot be said of Thor. However, with King Thor I would say we have a nice excuse of the tradtion of having Hulk smash Thor whenver they fight (or at least more often than not).
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wynndar thats like saying Shang-Chi is not a better fighter than Thor because Thor is thousands of years older...Beta Ray bill is equal to or better than Thor is fighting ability...for some reason, the old Marvel stats also called beta ray bill more durable...I dont know why...but i do know BRB has a tendency to hang out with more of the cosmic types and demonstrated he is at least...just as cool as classic Thor [/QUOTE
Well Shang Chi isn't a better fighter than Thor. Technique-wise yeah, but he's not going to beat Thor in a fight. I'm not talking about fighting technique, I'm talking about who is superior. Thor is superior to Beta Ray Bill power-wise. Bill's not even close anymore. Close to Classic Thor, absolutely, but not new Thor.
grrrr.... why isn't anyone considering my post asides from havoc? THOR...WOULD...BEAT...HULK!!! just for the mere fact that
pissed off thor + mighty mjolnir > pissed off hulk.
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