I think everyone is forgetting that Cap doesn't get tired. The Super Soldier Serum burns off toxins in his system that cause people to tire. So saying Spidey could outlast him just isn't an educated answer. Also, Wolverine probably has a similar ability, although I'm not as up on him as I am Cap.
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The serum enhances his endurance by eliminating fatigue-producing poisons in his muscles, but he does indeed get tired. He is afterall only human, and human muscles can only be pushed so far.
Spidey's endurance and punishment capacity naturally out weighs capn, that's not mentionig his fighting spirit which pushes his own limits when things get too tough for him.
Cap is most definitely a better leader and a better combat strategian, but this isn't a war situation, it's just a fight. Combat strategy doesn't really enter into play when it's just two individuals slugging it out. Plus Spidey's gone toe-to-toe with all of those figures except for Ultron as well.
He lost them all *except Iron Man*, but still, lol...
Technically speaking, he never did. An Iron-Man from the future was coming to our time, and got into a fight with Spider-Man.
It was a good fight, but at the end, Spider-Man was going berserk and ripped the armor of Iron Man in 1000 little pieces. Hah, that will teach him .
Oh yeah, and Spider-Man also beat Namor once, when they were fighting on a ship. Okay okay, the fight ended in some kind of draw, but Spider-Man clearly was having the upper hand and was telling jokes, while Namor was getting weaker and weaker.
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Quoting you is thrashing? Relax and take a deep breath.
Not one of these three are close to spider-man's speed, agility, or strength, and taking on multiple enemies is not something that is new to him.
I'd edit that mistake but I didn't notice it untill too late. For some reason I thought Kontraz was the one I was replying too. So replace "Quoting you" with "Quoting some one"
i'm a fan of all four of these characters, but it's three against one, two characters he's had a difficult time fighting by themselves (keep in mind wolvie's ended 50/50) and the cap who is a strong force, fighting these three at the same time is too much for him, saying he would win against all three is just pure fanboyism
Merc, you stated that Spiderman is not much faster than a human. How much do you know about Spiderman? I am not implying that you know little about him. I am just curious.
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Just what I've read, about 20 spidey comics none of them in an arc except Kraven's last hunt. Plenty of cross-overs (marvel within marvel.) Sets of trading cards and other various marvel sources list Marvel stats.
Now that I've given you the curtesy, answer me this. Why do you respond to all my post with "what do you know about this character?"
Do not accuse me of ignorance. I may not have read as much Spidey as you but I've picked up an incalcualable amount of information from working in a comic shop for seven years.
But so is Spidey, and he doesn't have the Serum coursing through his veins. Cap's abilities, all of them, far exceed the levels of an Olympic-level athlete. He is the "perfect" human specimen. Combine this with his natural leadership and training in military and combat strategy, plus Wolverine's tenacity to win no matter what (this IS a "death match", and he IS the "best at what he does"), and DareDevil's talents (the weakest link in the chain, I think, as Cap soundly whipped him in 4 pages in Captain America, Volume 1, Issue 234, June 1979, and this while he was under a spell by Dr. Faustus), and I just can't see it going Spidey's way unless it was a Spider-Man comic written and drawn by a... dare I say it... fanboy.
Crossover matches are always faulty, simply because if you had to heroes from different classes fight each other, it wouldn't be fun to just watch the other get smashed. So to make it interesting (or make their favs look good) the writers invent a handicap, like allowing one hero (specially Spidey) to not take into account one of his super powers (like strength or spidersense gets downplayed) so the other hero has a chance. that and fanboyism happens all the time. Besides crummy crossovers that are purely fan based and stretch the rules in the weaker heroes favor, you have no evidence.
I'm done with this argument. U haven't proven me wrong, and you can't. Spidey wins on every level against all three. All three put together can't possibly match speed, strength, agility, or reflexes. It's over, Spidey wins by the facts, not fandom. Venome, Carnage, and Scorpion vs. SPidey?, Spidey looses. These guys are tough one on one, and Spidey manages to beat the stuffings out of them one time or another, or with his brains. these three don't have the power. Mercilous is a fanboy.
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None of your facts are even coherent. Go over and re-read your own post. Note that everytime Spidey gets his ass handed to him it's fandom. And everytime he does well against someone who's stronger than him or even out of his league it's just Spidey. Your fanboism has severaly misconstrued your judgement. So bite me fanboy.
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