Spidey always gets his a$$ handed to him, just not by ppl he HAS to hold back on or he'd kill them. Scorpion, Venom, and Carnage have all wooped spidey many times and they are superior....but spidey has wooped them as well which is y they hate him.
well i dont doubt that spidey can take wolverine...not one bit...however, DD has demonstrated it can go either way between the two of them....and well i jus dont think anyone should try a go against cap, even spidey....it would jus end up in failure
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Yes, Cap is the strongest piece in this chess game. This spidey fanboy seems to think that he'd get webbed up and taken out with one punch as he's said many times.
umm....can someone tell me what exactly so good about capt ...like i aint dising him or nuttin...but yeeh..iono....i been to dem sites...and his strength and reflex and stuff is da pinnacle of what a human can be.....is it basically his 'experience' and stuff dat makes him better den all da others??
He beat Iron Man in an annual, I don't remember which one.
I don't dismiss Wolverine's abilities, and I don't dislike him. I actually like Wolverine, I just loathe Wolverine fans because they know nothing about any other hero besides him. They seem to think his claws and healing ability are sufficient to let him go up against Galactus or the Living Tribunal.
Spider-Man is unbelievably faster than a normal human. Kraven's Last Hunt was a horrible storyline in terms of understanding his powers. He was a wuss throughout that entire plotline. You have to watch him go against heavy-hitters like Hulk and Thor to see his speed. They can't even touch him. His three combatants in this thread are much closer in speed to Spidey, but still not equal. As far as Cap goes, like I said, I think Spidey's hero-worship will get in the way of his victory, but he can win. He'd take out DD and Wolvie plain and simple. All three at once? Hell no, that's a stupid debate.
i've never seen spidey take out wolvie, as for DD he has lost and won against spidey so he's proven difficult for spidey, as for cap i never read too much about him but from what i have read he'd prove a strong force against spidey, and all three together is just a massacre
i agree certain wolvie fans are like that, that could be said about certain spidey fans also
Well they haven't fought but once and it was a poorly-written battle anyway. If you count the cartoons, Spidey tossed Wolvie around pretty easily. I haven't read a DD/Spidey encounter in Daredevil comics, so I don't know if they've fought, but in Spider-Man, DD only won when Spidey wasn't controlling himself. Spidey's taken the rest of the matches. Though Daredevil is certainly capable of giving Spidey a tough fight, Matt has even admitted he's out of his league.
I've never met a Spider-Man fan who thought he was capable of going up against Galactus, lol. I'm a big Spidey fan and I'm the first to admit when he's gotten his ass handed to him. He has taken on Hulk and Thor and done fairly well, he even had the nerve to fight Thanos, but he's certainly no match for them. People like, oh I don't know, wolverine88888888888 seem to think Wolvie is unbeatable. Plus the thing that ticks me off about Wolverine fans is they're usually kids who haven't been reading comics very long and they only like Wolvie 'cause he's a bad-ass man. His claws are cool!' Same with Punisher fans. 'he's got guns dude!' Oooh, what a super hero he is, he can pull a trigger.
Well, being a true Spider-Man fan, I can in all honesty say I couldn't care less whenever Spider-Man gets his ass kicked, or fights like a wuss. Spider-Man can hang around with the big guys, but in the next comic, he gets his ass handed to him by some third-rate villain.
But that's why I like him, he's so unpredictable. You can't win 'em all.
Btw : it's true that in Kraven's Last Hunt, a brilliant story mind you !, Spider-Man's powers were on holiday. But nevertheless, great story, one of the best.
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wolvie is a very vulnerable character, alot of myth around the character as to what could actually kill him which i wish could be proven already, there should be a comic that finally exploits his true vulnerabilities
anyway, i know of a few spidey fans who take him to a wolverine888888 extent, but none of them i've seen on this forum so you're right
Like ive mentioned before...seeing that DD has taken out Sabretooth in two hits, I would have to rate him superior in skill to Wolverine. Daredevil's powers are more complicated than just "radar sense"...he uses all of his senses together in manner like no one else...he also has a spiritual sense that no one really mentions...this sense has demonstrated to act before spiderman's spidersense even...for example, Daredevil could sense the gamma bomb hidden by the Reed Richards doppleganger in Infinity War...and when Diablo and his Elementals were trying to take over the world, it was Daredevil who reacted to it before Spiderman's spider sense...my memories a little fuzzy, I may have to find the issue, but when Terrax lifted the island of manhattan into space, didnt daredevil rescue Spiderman from a nasty fall? Yes Spidey is stronger, more durable, and more flexible...But Daredevil has the greater level of skill...as for Captain Amercia, his hand to hand has only been challenge by Guys like Black Panther...his fighting ability in hand to hand is uncontested by spiderman or the others.
Thats why I think Spidey can take wolverine one on one...it could go either way with Daredevil, but there is no way he could get cap.
i dont think that makes DD's skill superior to wolvies, it's been in a comic and i cant go against that, i just think that alot of DD's writers went way too far seeing as DD has had problems with lesser people than sabretooth so many other times before and even after that fight
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