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Hercules can get his own movie; no need to crowd the spotlight from the Odinson!
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Dec 15th, 2005 07:16 PM |
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I have the 1966 cartoon episodes when they met and I think it's a great idea to have this connection.
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Dec 15th, 2005 08:11 PM |
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If they do the film and it's a hit, I would save a meeting with Hercules for the second film. You have to spend time making so much plausible about Thor, Asgard, and whatever the peril is - I don't think the screentime could be shared like that. But, in a sequel, it's like - this new peril, we need help. Let's call my old friend Hercules!
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Dec 15th, 2005 08:56 PM |
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Steve Reeves is my Hercules, hard to find another like him. Thor needs CG because Dr. Blake is a normal looking person and Thor is him but bigger. They cannot have two actors playing the same role. Same work is needed for Captain America who also transformed. 
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Dec 15th, 2005 09:23 PM |
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Thor and Donald Blake do not have to look alike, just be sort of alike facially. Blake wasn't Thor shrunk down or anything. And anyway, Blake was discarded decades ago, who says he needs to be in it?
No CGI is needed if they cast Nathan Jones (see previous page)
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Dec 15th, 2005 09:46 PM |
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No way, that guy or any other can never be Thor. Is not the body or high but the face and combining them is a challenge. Blake became Thor and this is beyond our understanding, Odin knew this man would be his son. Yes, they are the same person, one man the other a god. I support CGI. I am talking about the clean shaven Thor. Does Hercules look like a man? I don't think so.
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Dec 15th, 2005 10:41 PM |
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The thunder god? May be.
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Dec 15th, 2005 11:19 PM |
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Let's say Odin killed his son and sent his spirit to earth. This man Dr. Donald Blake became Thor, not the real one that once lived but a "reincarnation". He is the same man who recalls every moment of his life as a mortal and his god personality as time passed by. Have you ever read his first comic appearance? For that there is only one performance to play by an actor and that is the doctor. We must see the transformation when he hits the cane on the ground, not just a blinding flash light. Thor is a CGI character just like Hulk. Imagine Thor with no knowledge of the present, lost in the city.
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Dec 16th, 2005 04:56 PM |
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Yes, I have seen Thor's first appearence. Just because that's how it was done in the comic doesn't mean that's how it must be. Thor could be making his first return to Earth since hundreds of years ago, maybe he meets and befriends a couple named Donald Blake and Jane Foster, who show him how things have changed while he pursues some sort of menace.
Going from Blake-to-Thor in the past was a magic switch, not biological like The Hulk. It could be anybody. In Marvel 1602, Thor shares his form with a frail old man who carries around a magic 'stick'.
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Dec 16th, 2005 05:18 PM |
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You are smart and imaginative. In my opinion I would like the comic version because it is delightful how a man shares the conscience of a god, that is why the comic was entitled "Journey into Mystery". I was thinking about the music video Black in Black by Michael Jackson and I can picture the transformation. As you said it's not biological but in disguise, somehow like the guyver, Blake summons Thor but still the same person/mind. Loki can do that and much more. Also remember what he does, he swings the hammer, flies, and make thunderbolts, he's golden hair not dirty blond, among other things-hard for an actor.
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Dec 16th, 2005 06:21 PM |
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I'd love to see this movie get made. If it ever does, I hope they don't give us some average build guy and expect us to believe he's stronger than a regular human. I never watched Kevin Sorbo's portrayal of Hercules for that very reason.
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Dec 16th, 2005 07:37 PM |
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I think they are quite capable of creating CGI Thor. Hulk has a line in the movie. Just hire a german guy with a perfect english to play the Doc. We have this future with all of them, when sooner or later they unite, nobody should fail or quit showbiz. Why not accepting the support of CGI. And keep the music score from the 66 cartoon that bull horn like sound is great. Sorry I mention Captain America but in this case is the opposite-a CGI Steve Rogers, which is biological. We have this problem with the same person changing.
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Dec 16th, 2005 08:51 PM |
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Dec 19th, 2005 08:11 AM |
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The CGI Hulk hardly had to act - he was a simple creature - and had only one line. CGI might be neccessary for someone like Hulk or Juggernaut ( we'll see about what X3 does), but my point about Nathan Jones is, it's not needed. When he steps out onto the screen early in Troy, I gasped, becuase I thought it WAS CGI; a human being coudn't be as big & muscled as that! I thought. But he's real. 6'10, 320 pounds, won a world's strongest man competition - he's who we need. I am not gonna limit my casting because he and Donald Blake have to look alike. To get the right Thor, I would punt Donald Blake outta here!
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Dec 19th, 2005 04:24 PM |
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K3VIL this one has better approach, same face. If they keep the comic costume will he look good in it? Thor's body looks better than anyone we all know.
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Dec 19th, 2005 04:50 PM |
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No visitors for quite long huh. It'll be good to see the movie start with the name Thor like shattered grey stone just like the hammer with words printed on it.
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Jan 7th, 2006 05:45 PM |
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CGI works for motions or bodies better than face, so I was thinking of having an actor just like the last one here playing both roles and give him the body&performance he needs as Thor. This is better than my previous idea. When he hits the cane we see a bright light around him and with the light comes the helmet/cape/etc.
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Jan 7th, 2006 06:09 PM |
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I hope they do this movie, rather than an Avengers movie. But they need to do enough to distinguish it in the public's mind, away from Superman. His films will deliver similar super feats; plus if New Line Cinema gets Shazam off the ground, it will be a crowded market for this kind of film.
I continue to say, get the best actor to fill this role, instead of CGI.
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Jan 7th, 2006 08:13 PM |
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Yes, an actor who looks exactly like him.
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Jan 7th, 2006 08:54 PM |
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They can't do a Kevin Sorbo Hercules thing here - fit but not built enough. Thor is BIG.
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