yea, thats my point - if theyre not in the top 50 or 100 theres no point them even being on the list... because after that its just random songs thrown on in no order at all. and frankly i dont think Tool should be in the top 50...100 maybe
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In that case, where is Papa Was A Rolling Stone by The Temptations, Rollin Stone by Muddy Waters, Cover Of The Rolling Stone by Dr Hook, or any more of the hundred or so songs with the word "rolling stone" in the title?
"you know theyre not the be-all and end-all of music...
theyre great, but im not surprised theyre not in the top 50 best songs ever... infact i wouldnt be surprised if they werent in the top 100"
Considering Tool won a grammy for a song that isn't even near their best, I'd say that's a pretty outrageous claim. I don't hype Tool. I'm not the one going around creating "Maynard is God". "Tool, anyone" threads. I love the band, its musicians and I have my opinion as to how high they are in the musical scale of things. If you got a problem, complain to those that make noise. I've only ever hyped Tool in a Tool thread.
And as for me being told by, I believe DF, that I know Tool aren't the be all and end all of music, I would appreciate if you wouldn't tell me what I know. I don't tell you "DF, you KNOW all Screamo bands are shit". Despite me thinking they are, you think they aren't. Hence opinions differ.
"yes...Grammy's are definately the way to see who is the best"
Did I say they are a way to see who's the best? Can you please go and show me where I specifically stated that the Grammy awards are "a way to see who's the best". You may have trouble finding it coz it's not there as, shock horror, I didn't say it. You would do well to stop twisting and wrongly assuming the contents of my posts.
I reiterate: and to think I'm labelled as someone who doesn't respect opinions and twists words.
"you know theyre not the be-all and end-all of music...
theyre great, but im not surprised theyre not in the top 50 best songs ever... infact i wouldnt be surprised if they werent in the top 100"
Considering Tool won a grammy for a song that isn't even near their best, I'd say that's a pretty outrageous claim.
1) Someone says that Tool doesn't deserve to be in the upper echelons of music
2) you reply that they won a grammy.
Did I say it's a way to prove who's best? No. I merely said they won a Grammy that, for whatever reason good or bad, is a globally recognised and "prestigious" award ceremony. So considering that some of the people on there are Outkast and "Hey Ya!" (which I have no problem with) I thought Tool would have been on there if purely on the basis of them having being respected enough to get given a Grammy.
That isn't me saying who's best. Don't misintepret my words coz you're lacking ammo.
They really don't have a very good list in my opinion. If you are going to claim to be the "greatest songs of all time" list then that list should be composed of more diverse music genres from both current and previous musical artists. They really didn't venture out of the classic rock genre much in the top 50 songs.
Hmm, ive now listened to 3/4 of the Aenima album, and I find it vastly uninteresting... I mean I cant even remember the melody (if there even was one) of the previous song.
It almost seems that in there quest for the new and unexplored they forgot to write memorable songs.
But that's probably just me not liking the genre, or me being overhyped by all the tool-junkies and there threads and just expecting to much from "the most important band in the world" (quote may be inaccurate).
Or me not wanting to reach out or something like that, or me not wanting to lower... sorry I mean lift ofcourse, myself to there level of musical blablabla. And I am trying. And I am gonna listen to them several more time and I might change my opinion, but this is it at the moment.
I was actually a bit surprised to see nothing from Talking Heads, very little from Springsteen, and nothing from the 1980s underground movement. With Rolling Stone wanting to seem hip again, not putting any Pixies songs was kinda odd
Yeah, but some songs by some bands become better after several listens. And I dont really mind it, just not very interesting.
Yeah, I kinda realised that... sorry, damn now I made yet another reply regarding tool... :/ I shall shut my mouth on tool from now on regarding this thread.
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Talking Heads...I can't believe I forgot about them! I loved them when I was like 2 years old or something like that...I was REALLY young when I liked them.
'you know bla bla bla...?' is like a figure of speech, i think i put a question mark on there to indicate it was that phrase and not me telling you you know it...
you seem to be arguing that Tool ARE the be all and end all of music here tho
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...espesially the latter one where they actualy sing about the mag
or something like that...I was REALLY young when I liked them.
