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Advant why is this celebrated when Christmas is supose to be a pagan hoilday?
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Cipher
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Easter is like that, too. A pagan holiday converted into a christian one.....

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easter was celebreted by the jews as passover (commemorating the freedom and exodus of the Israelites)

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no, the egyptians were first.


Didn't they use a deciduous tree? A palm tree to be precise? It's not very Christmas tree like unless the tree can resist winter. They're a borderline case. The Greeks were the first to do what I talked about, find a tree that could resist winter, and celebrate with it.

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It's not very Christmas tree like unless the tree can resist winter
Yeah cause Egypt is such a snowresort stick out tongue

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there is always a startpoint somewhere and some would place it with the greek and some with the egyptians

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Actually, the concept of decorating a tree with lights came from Germany (at least with pine trees) as I recall.

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guess the Egyptians and Greeks had difficult hanging their lights on the trees wink

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1st of advent todaybig grin

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hmm 1st of advent was on last sunday here in Norway

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I thought it was meant to be december 1st

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here in Norway it is the last 4 sundays before xmas. To be able to make that happen one of the Sundays have to be in November unless xmas eve falls on a Sunday. We celebrete xmas at the 24th not the 25th.
So for Norway it starts on the 4th Sunday in advance of xmas eve, actually I thought that was the same for all western churches.

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advent starts on dec 1st here (i think), as advent calenders start from dec 1st

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Advent and advent calender aint really the same. Advent is the church thing for the waitng period while the calenders is for childrens.
I use to live in Arkansas and at least there they celebrated Advent the same way as in Norway

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The Catholic Encyclopedia even admits that NOONE knows when the Christian Jesus was supposedly born:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm

It seems some Roman Emperor made a new Winter Solstice festival on December 25th, which was then consequently converted into the day were Christians celebrated the birth of Jesus. There are also tales of semi-gnostics in Alexandria worshipping a virgin goddess Korê (I think), and in the same contry you find images of isis with baby-Horus which looks like Mary with Jesus but are far older...


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advent starts on dec 1st here (i think), as advent calenders start from dec 1st


oops. sorry. you were right about it starting 4 sundays before christmas.
I just got confused because advent calenders start on dec 1st

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smile

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Arkansas and Norway? You get around finti........

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The Catholic Encyclopedia even admits that NOONE knows when the Christian Jesus was supposedly born:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm
Well Jesus knows...

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