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Is Zion a Real World ?
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Superfly4000
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It would be so cool if they put the phone booth scene at the end of Revolutions.


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I believe Morpheous was rather serious and honest when he said to Neo...."Welcome to the REAL world". Waaaay back in the first film.


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yeah I guess so, but still it's great that people philosophise about all this stuff, its what makes the movie more interesting. yes


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Oh yeah is fun to make up your own little theories about the film. happy

But that Matrix within the matrix stuff takes the fun out of it. Kinda goes confusing. messed


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yeah I don't think that's the point, but all those references are just so much fun!

I'm trying to get people to join in the current ARG's (alternate reality gaming) metacortex (remember the days) was one of them


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Zion is Jerusalem. Y'know the holy city of the Jews in the bible and today. Read the Bible. Good stuff.


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It would maike a lot more sense if it actually was another Matrix but you can't actually prove it the one way or the other so its a nice theory but not worth argueing since there is no right or wrong answer (since it is a film in the first place anyway)

Oh by the way Existenz is a lot more interesting. And it hast to do with a matrix in a matrix which possibly is in a matrix that is in a matrix its cooooool. They don'T call it Matrix though.


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ExistenZ has a twisted spiral storyline. wacko

It does have some Matrixism in it.


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Matrixism?
I'D say Matrix has some ExistenZialism in it. And don't say the Matrix was first, whatever they well they traveled to the future and then stole the ideas, yes, thats how it was, err I mean is going to be, no has been, I dunno.


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ExiztenZialism? eek!

You beat me with that one. stick out tongue


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What the f**k?

You've lost me.


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You haven't seen a movie called eXistenZ? confused

Is has a lot twists and turns. You kinda lose track of whats happening. But is real good.


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Nope, never heard...I'll check it out though.


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ExistenZ is weird.. What the f**k? Matrix has got cool people in it


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err, whom if I may ask?


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Re: Is Zion a Real World ?

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Many supporters (including me) of this movie strongly believe that Zion is NOT a real world.



Their based on the following reasons :

1) Neo can stop those "mechanical optopus" outside the matrix system.

2) Neo didn't die even one of the mechanical optopus passed through his body

3) Zion is simply a place designed by machine for fixing those bugs (Neo,Trinity etc.....) who feel unreal in matrix. Once they wake up, they just go to another system (Zion) and they think that they are free. But in fact, they (bugs) are still under the control of the machine.



1) He only stopped the sentinels AFTER he went to Architect. as was mentioned before. ( And i firmly beleive he did NOT go to the source, i can explain later)

2) How come trinity didnt get hit by the sentinel? she was sitting right next to neo. Neo didnt get hit by a physical sentinel, rather, he was smacked by that funky unexplained orange light crap.

3)Zion is the last city which hasnt been overrun by machines. the machines didnt make it, the surviving humans did. The freed ones are not 'bugs', they just dont accept the matrix as real. Zion isnt under control by the machines or they would have destroyed it by now.


The first Matrix explained everything quite neatly, then Reloaded screwed everyone over, then Revolutions didnt answer anything that Reloaded questioned.

Morpheus's explaination when he first introduces Neo to the Real world (when he shows him the battery) answers everything nicely.

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Yes it does it nicely but not fuilly. Zion could be a faked world, another matrix that let the humans belive they were in the free world with all the shite around. Quite possible


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the agents arn't looking for zion they already know where it is smith is looking for the codes to get him into the zion mainframe so he can destroy it and be free from the matrix and not chase hackers all day

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