O Plz!? that theory is so lame! everyone knows that Anakin was conceived from the force with no father. Its just like the story of Jesus, the chosen one was born with no father, i thought u people knew this!?
btw, all this is CONFIRMED by Lucas in a documentary i saw, so out the window with that theory!
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i wasnt implying that what i said was written in stone, i said i HEARD that a long time ago, and that new thing theyre talking about may be a way to get around that. I think it should stay the way it was...Anakin with no dad.
"This infamous Dark Lord of the Sith supposedly gained such an insight into the Force that he was actually able to influence the midichlorians to create life."
I just thought about something everyone is assuming that this means Anakin wasn't born by the force but was influenced by Sidious or Plaguei, I think Sidious does in fact know how to do this but I also think Anakin wasn't created by him and has no father end of story. But it also got my attention on something else. Could this be the key to Anakin cheating death in EP. 3? What I mean is that , maybe Anakin is dieing in EP. 3 after falling into the lava and Sidious influences the midichlorians to create life back into Anakin keeping him alive and placing him into the vader suit. Just a thought
This won't be the case I can assure you. Anakin's mother confirmed in Episode 1 that there was no father. Now with all do respect, she would know wouldn't she?
In Episode IV Obi-Wan says Vader killed Luke's father. Now with all due respect, he would know wouldn't he?
I do believe Anakin has no father however. This may be how Anakin survives the molten hot MAGMA or maybe Sidious is just trying to trick Anakin into believing that Sidious is his father.
If this spoiler is true, then I don't see any point in having palpatine relate this story of Plagueis being able to manipulate the midichlorians into being able to create life except to show that Sidious created Anakin using this power (that he learned from Plagueis as his apprentice).
I mean, otherwise, what's the point of this even being in the film?
JP I don't think its the force ghost theory because the Sith do not know how to return after death no Sith has ever returned as a ghost after they died so there's no way Sidious would know about this info.
I think that Palpatine is saying this because he knows how Anakin wants to save lives and such. This is classic Sidious, feeding his future apprentice the information he needs to get drawn in to the dark side. Palpatine may have been the apprentice that killed Plagueis, that'd be a cool little tidbit of info, but I very highly doubt that Palpatine is supposed to be Anakin's father.
I'm sorry, but I don't see anything in this spoiler that implies in the slightest that Palptine is Ani's father.
It is addressing a difference in Jedi and Sith Philosopy.
Ternian at MF.COM has confirmed in the related Forum topic that the idea of Palps "creating" Ani is not even broached in ROTS, and that we should be concentrating on the opening quote.
It is about Palpatine luring Ani into choosing the Sith over the Jedi - the promise of power.
As a Jedi, Ani will never have limitless power.
So he will never understand how to save Padme.
A Sith's power is not limited by their understanding - with them, the quest for power is paramount, and understanding comes with the acquisition of power.
It is Yoda who works out the "Force ghost" thing.
Something he learns through Ani.
Quite how Ani passes on what Palpatine has told him without alarm bells ringing - I don't know.
Palpatine is talking about extending Earthly life.
Yoda realises somehting that has been thus far been missing in Jedi philosophy through what Ani tells him - but this new method of tapping into the midis is used to extend Jedi's spiritual life.
IMO, it will have something to do with the realisation that midichlorians are all around - they are eternal.
Thus far the Jedi are preoccupied with the midis within.
Where does a Jedi's midis go when they die?
Would a Jedi purge make more midis available to the Sith?
Can one's identity be impressed upon the midis without as well as those within?
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Of course, and it was appropriate for him to lie. I just don't see where Anakin's mother trying to hide the truth would come in to play, but I guess you never know.
i still totally think palps is anakins father. then at the end of rotj, it would be like 3 generations fight eachother. it would make way more sense... and dont give me all the crap about how he was born like "jesus". schmi only said that there was no father because he was like never around. she gave birth... she raised him.. she never said anything about .. "just one say i became prgnant"
well, if the rumor is true, it does lead to sidious being the catalyst for the creation of anakin. but i really dont believe that he consciously impregnated shmi. i think if its true than it is just what it says.
sidious knows how to manipulate the will of the force, but in the end the force created anakin, and not palps.
most likely palps had no idea of shmi and anakin...just that somewhere in the galaxy was the one conceived by the force. when he met anakin in episode 1, he knew he found him. for all we know, finding the chosen one was far overdue in his plans, since anakin was raised on a non-republic planet where the jedi just barely discovered him.
IF its true, this is the only way i can see it working. that would mean that palps was not only seeking to fulfil his conquest and revenge against the jedi, but also searching for the ultimate apprentice.
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