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The earth as we know it today, as described in the bible, was created by four and a half billion years of evolution.


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The earth as we know it today, as described in the bible, was created by four and a half billion years of evolution.


thats not a fact! roll eyes (sarcastic)

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There's scientific evidence to back that up, which is more than I can say about your 6 (6000) day bible theory.

Quite ridiculous really.
Seriously, I wish more people would close their bibles and open a science book.


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There's scientific evidence to back that up, which is more than I can say about your 6 (6000) day bible theory.


I dont know how old the earth is, neither do you. Whether it is 10 billion years or 2 days it matters not to me.


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I guess it would matter if it was 2 days

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I've always wondered why God would have to rest too. Also, why did it take him 6 days to make everything? If he's all powerful, couldn't he just make it all in a flash and be done with it? How exactly did they measure days before the universe existed seeing that there was no earth or sun? It's just another addition to the endless list of things about the bible that don't make sense.

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its a tale made so that kids easily can reflect and relate to the story

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I guess it would matter if it was 2 days


Matter in which way?

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If he's all powerful, couldn't he just make it all in a flash and be done with it?


I dont see why not but that doesnt mean he would either. It may seem more effecient to you but to a supernatural being who trascends time, what relevance would it be?

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How exactly did they measure days before the universe existed seeing that there was no earth or sun?


Who is they? Time in the physical universe would not have existed until the universe was created.


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Matter in which way?
matter through the fact that we wouldnt be where we are if it was 2 days old

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matter through the fact that we wouldnt be where we are if it was 2 days old


You are correct but I was thinking of how long it took to the create the earth. This because he was talking about 6 days and what not.


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Who is they? Time in the physical universe would not have existed until the universe was created.
God created the earth in 6 days and rested on the sabbath right? How do you know it was 6 days if the earth and sun were nonexistent at the time? When they say 6 days do they mean 6 of our earth days?

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God created the earth in 6 days and rested on the sabbath right? How do you know it was 6 days if the earth and sun were nonexistent at the time? When they say 6 days do they mean 6 of our earth days?


I dontk now how many days it was created in, it doesnt even concern me to be honest with you. Wasnt the sun created before the earth?


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time doesnt matter to God- to him a thousand years are as a day.
Who cares why he didnt create everything in a flash- i cant be bothered trying to figure all that out...
All i know is im looking foward to the 6 day holiday thats comin up (days including the weekend days)--oh yes........relaxation


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According to the bible he created the universe and everything inside it in 6 days and rested on the sabbath. A day on Earth is measured by one full rotation of the earth. So if when they say 6 days they mean 6 earth days, then that doesn't make sense because earth wasn't created yet. If by 6 days they don't mean earth days but some other measurement of time, than who is to say 6 of those "days" don't translate to billions of earth's years?

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According to the bible he created the universe and everything inside it in 6 days and rested on the sabbath. A day on Earth is measured by one full rotation of the earth. So if when they say 6 days they mean 6 earth days, then that doesn't make sense because earth wasn't created yet. If by 6 days they don't mean earth days but some other measurement of time, than who is to say 6 of those "days" don't translate to billions of earth's years?


I always see those days as times of activity. For instance
Period one, create stars, bind them into galaxies, put the energy density of space to one part in a hundred million billion billion billion billion billion yada yada.

It's not like God can casually say to a scribe, "OK, first I created a singularity, then I expanded, simulataneously producing after 0.00000... seconds strong nuclear force , weak nuclear force, the size ratio of the neutron and the proton, electromagnetism...". Who could understand him?

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Let me try to understand what you are saying. Are you saying that you believe the "days" the bible talks about aren't actual units of time, but periods of activity? Meaning that he did do it in a flash and the 6 days were just 6 steps to creating the universe? Then what about the 7th.. that wouldn't be a period of activity because no activity would be occurring. Resting isn't a step in creating the universe... and it wouldn't be necessary for an omnipotent being. So did someone just add the 7th "day" into the story of creation so we would have a day off.. or did God actually use a "period of activity" to rest which God wouldn't even have to do in the first place?

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a "day" couldn't be 24 hours, since there was no earth/moon then stick out tongue


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First of all, there is no proof of how long "days" were at that time, obviously. Second, God "rested" to set the example that men were to rest on the Sabbath day, as he made it a commandment.

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according to the bible the first day is over at the time earth and sun are created i thought..... so wheres the problem big grin ?

edit: thatd be 5000 more years for the rest of the thing....

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First of all, there is no proof of how long "days" were at that time, obviously. Second, God "rested" to set the example that men were to rest on the Sabbath day, as he made it a commandment.
My point is that if you don't know how long the days the bible mentioned actually were, they could actually be billions of earth years and scientists could be right about the age of the Earth. And if all god wanted to do was command man to rest on the 7th day, why didn't he just command it? He really didn't have to set an example.
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according to the bible the first day is over at the time earth and sun are created i thought..... so wheres the problem ?

edit: thatd be 5000 more years for the rest of the thing....
But that still doesn't make sense.. how is the period from the beginning to the creation of the Earth and Sun measured as a day since during that period the Earth and Sun didn't exist?

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