Diana take this.She's faster, STRONGER, more durable, and MORE experienced.She only needs to fly at Hulk at Mach 10 speed and hit his head with a haymaker punch, then the Hulk would go smashing things in Heaven no more in Earth.She has near the 70% of Post Superman's strenght, more than what it needed to knock down the Green Goliath.
No it isn't enough, you need more than that. You forget that Hulk can become stronger very fast (depends of course of which Hulk we're talking about), is at least as strong, more durable and has an incredibly healing factor.
Good fight, really, but Hulk should win.
__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Wonder Woman is not stronger than Hulk. (She did use the gauntlets to support the spacecraft. She can't use 'em in this fight; no weapons.) And if she could knock off Hulk's head, (which she most certainly could not,) it would regenerate. In fact, if Wonder Woman flew at Hulk at Mach 10 speed (7,200 mph), and Hulk counters with a punch, she's definately going to be knocked out (she has weak invulnerability, the impact would definately knock her out. That would be like a human running full speed into a battering ram.) Don't make it seem like this is an easy win for Wonder Woman because it really isn't.
Superhuman strength: It is obvious her strength is magical in nature, given her height and weight. Her strength is near the order of Supermans or Captain Marvels. With her superhuman strength and superior fighting abilities, she has proven to be a match for either one of them at one time or another
I'm not talking of her with the gauntlets.Without the gauntlets she's anyway a heavyweight in DC Universe, she's not durable as Supes or Marvel but you're underrating her.Hulk starts from Class 100, then he can excess it.But anyway, i can't see how can you surpass the strenght of your enemy if he's fast enough to outmatch you.
Wonder Woman would not knock out Hulk immidiately. It would be a long tedious fight. Regardless of how fast Wonder Woman is, she could not knock out Hulk without him getting any angrier or stronger. His invulnerability and regeneration would not allow it. Most assume that Hulk is a big slow clod with no speed. This is not true Hulk can also run at 150mph (his leg muscles are very powerful), so there is no large gap in speed (though wonder woman is faster, a better fighter and can fly.) Hulk has also caught missles launched at him traveling at Mach 5 (3,600mph.) I'm sure he could react to some of her punches. As I said, Wonder Woman could win, but her chances are far from definate.
I was wrong about Hulk's class 100 strength. The Marvel website does not specify Hulk having class 100 strength; fansites chose to assign this value. The writers at Marvel do not say that his strength starts out at any level, and their statements are the only ones that really matter. Hulk has never been shown to not be able to lift anything. His functional strength is obvioulsy far greater than 100 tons. Therefore Hulk is in fact stronger than Wonder Woman, as he has performed greater feats of strength. His ability chart says that he is among the strongest in the universe. He is in the same strength class as Galactus and Thanos.
hulk starts out at a 70ton level then its increased as he gets madder.another thing hulk doesnt have unlimeted strength because
cuss anger is not unlimeted.you will ether get to a point were you become emotionless or your body gives out.
Where did you get that info supremthor? That's not what the writers say on the official marvel website. Hulk has no "starting out" strength. Don't trust a fansite over the Marvel writers, fansites will mislead you.
Emotion has no "limit", ask any psychologist. And "anger" isn't what really makes hulk stronger anyway; it's adrenaline. When Hulk gets stronger, his body grows as well. (you can see this demonstrated in the movie and the comic book.) The larger his body becomes, the more adrenaline he can hold. The more adrenaline created, the stronger Hulk becomes. Hulk has never shown a limit, thus his strength is limitless.
Is that a fact? You can't really say that Superman is at the same level of strength that Hulk is, as has been shown in his feats, and the fact that Marvel's said that DC works on a higher power scale, hence all the nearly god-like characters.
Ummmm, 150 mph and Mach 1 and up, that's a very, very large gap in speed. And she could knock Hulk out, he's been put down before.
It says that in Marvel's handbook, although it's kind of outdated by now. Savage Hulk starts off around Thing's level before he gets a boost in strength, which is why Thing's usually able to hang with him before he's overwhelmed. And true, Hulk hasn't been shown not to be able to lift or hold something yet, but neither has Wonder Woman (unless there's something I've missed), so that alone doesn't conclude anything. And, what chart are you looking at that says he's among the strongest in the universe? On Earth maybe, but the universe is a totally different thing. I'll admit, Thanos himself has said he'd rather not have to deal with Hulk, doesn't mean he wouldn't though. And, there are those that are stronger than Hulk, which I'vesaid already, but I'll say again: Champion, Tyrant, Mangog, Destroyer, and others I'm sure. And I'd hate to tell you this, but Hulk is NOT anywhere near Galactus' level. Although Galactus doesn't use his strength, should he choose to, he has a nearly limitless amount of cosmic power to call on to boost his strength, if he even needed to.
He got that from the Marvel's official handbook, which is true for Savage Hulk before he boosts his strength, while Professor Hulk already starts at around 100. And I hate to call you out on this, but you say don't trust fansites, but haven't you tryed using stats from the classic marvel rpg site?
And, Hulk does not get larger, you're thinking of the movie again. In mainstream comics, Banner Hulk's out to Hulk's regular size, and it stays that way.
And, Hulk kicking Juggernaut's ass regularly? Well, why don't you go to the Hulk/Juggernaut thread and states just how many times Hulk has kicked Juggernaut's ass,, and what happened.
supremethor,
You cannot die from an emotional breakdown (unless you kill yourself it creates mental illness. Bruce Banner has already had an emotional breakdown, and he has developed mpd, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia (he turns into the Hulk; THAT would qualify as mental illness). You ignored my statement about adrenaline. His weakness is his strength? Elaborate on this statement please.
Tron,
Read "The Incredible Hulk" issue# 404 and 457, He kicks Juggernauts ass in both.
Okay, 1) He hits him a couple of times, flips out and unleashes a psychic backlash, which is what knocks out Juggernaut. I didn't see a outright beatdown in that. And #457 wasn't even Hulk, it was War, when channeling energy from the regular universe and the Heroes Reborn universe, extremely boosted with Celestial tech, courtesy of Apocalypse, and even then Juggernaut heald his own pretty well.
True, but Juggernaut HAS gotten the best of Hulk in #172, if you haven't read it.
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