NEVER did I say that Emma's sexuality was all that she had to offer. In fact, if you go back to my posting, you will see that I mentioned her teaching experience. I am merely saying what I felt. And I felt that her appointment to headmistress was extremely sudden and was only done by Marvel because she is Cyclops' new girlfriend. She may have teaching experience, but that (I believe) did not at all factor into this decision. Do you see how that is different from saying that she has nothing to offer besides her sexual side?! By the way, did Jean ever express any desire to be headmistress anyway? I don't think she did. And if being headmistress is about responsibility, then I'd have to say that I think Storm is very responsible...
And yes I know what you were trying to say about Jean and Cyclops. I am just saying what I think of Emma and that that is why I do not think that her coupling with Cyclops is a good idea.
What's wrong with being promiscuous? Ummmm... People thinking that you are easy and therefore not respecting you? Possibly unwanted pregnancy? Sexually transmitted diseases and infections? The list goes on. I am not saying that sex is bad. But being promiscuous is never a good thing.
It is clear that you love Emma Frost. But I do not. I find her a stereotype and uninteresting. But hey! To each their own, right?
Cheers.
me dears wannabe and Katie_ girl 09 there is a different of opions yes but y are you two attacking each other so harsh if you both look at it you both are correct in some points and not in others but who am I to say anything. If you two deside to keep it up ill b happy to watch
This is what our dear Joe Quesada said...(taken from jott forums)
JQ: Are you saying that the genie has something to do with Peter and MJ because I didn’t say that. But if it did, divorce would never be an option. Aside from the fact that having a divorced Spider-Man is just kind of icky, what kind of message do we send to young readers about love and marriage? It’s not someplace I would like to go. So, sorry, I can’t help you with that one, but keep pitching kid, maybe someday you’ll make it.
So, I guess he wasn't worried about the message it would send to young readers to have Scott cheat on his wife?
I noticed, that you mentioned Emma's teaching experience, but you rejected it as being a reason for her position. You were saying:A formulation like this neglects every other reason, thus qualification Emma has to offer, for her being headmistress, does it not?!
Btw...Ok, Jean never asked for a leading role. So Emma did and Charles gave it to her because she has sex with Scott? What was so sudden and surprising about her appointment anyway? The school was a mess, the Professor wanted to leave and someone had to take over. Who would have been more suited to do the job than a born leader for superbeings and a female teacher, who has loads of experience in administrating an institute and is the only telepath left in the team? I'd say, that the decision to make Emma headmistress was extremely logical and it offered some potential for conflict, that could be used to flavour some stories in the comics.
1) I said responsibility AND qualification. Most of the X-Men are very responsible people, but does that alone make them suited to administer an educational institute?
2) I already agreed on the fact, that Storm is an excellent leader. She certainly has the responsibility and qualification to take over Scott's position, but certainly not Emma's, cause she is not a regular teacher and administrator.
3) Storm left! She didn't want to stay at the institute, so why are we talking about her?
Definitely your prerogative!
Remember what i said about it: "Complicated it only gets, when you're not mature enough, your character's not steadfast enough, or someone gets involved, who doesn't share your sexual openness."
Only if your sexuality is the only thing that defines you, people will think that you are easy and will not respect you. And people that choose to judge you only by your sexuality, not wanting to see what else you are and have to offer, should be irrelevant anyway.
Unwanted pregnancy, transmitted diseases and infections are the results of an irresponsible and immature dealing with sexuality in general, not the inevitable consequences of being promiscous. When you use condoms and avoid looking for sex mates among drug addicted or violent people (just two examples), you will have no more problems with pregnancy and diseases than nonpromiscous people.
As a mature, single telepath, Emma will certainly have had no problems with her sex mates. And now, that she is in a relationship with a monogamous partner, she acts accordingly...very responsible i'd say.
Nonetheless, when your personal sexual moral code prohibits promiscous behaviour, i will respect that. I just hope you're not one of these persons judging people only by their sexuality in relation to their personal opinions, ignoring everything else about them.
I don't love Emma (i'm gay), i just find her interesting because there is more to her than just the mask of the cold White Queen.
But just as you said! To each their own, right!
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Dear White Queen...Katie_ girl 09 and i are not attacking one another, we are just discussing an interesting issue! After all, that's what this whole forum is all about, is it not?
Actually i really enjoy talking with Katie_ girl 09 a lot. I never got the impression, that she was in any way harsh with me and i didn't try to be offensive either, so what exactly do you mean?
(Just in case you find that question offensive: it's really just an honest request for information!!!)
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Wannabe i understand what you saying but if you just read it from my point of view it looks likes you two are trying to duke it out and yes it is to state opinions i know and by no means did i say any of these things to get you angry with me i was just trying to get both of you to see you both got good points.
I'm not angry with you!
And rest assured, that i as well as Katie_ girl 09 know that we have good points on both our sides. But part of the fun in debating is, to express the complexity of thoughts behind your opinion and perhaps to convince the one your debating with.
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I like Emma with Cyclops; Jean & Scott are/where one of comics power couples but they were too much the same Xavier abiding honor students...(when Jean was herself) Emma at least offers some variety in Scotts life...
its the fight of their lives... can't she hold it?
as for astonishing x-men #13...
Got my hands on #13 yesterday...
the way we're kept guessing about emma is great imo, she's either desperately trying to make the man she loves forgive her, or she's just playing him all over again...
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