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PSP vs. DS : Which Will Be Better?
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32.00% |
| PSP |
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58.67% |
| Too early to tell |
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| Neither |
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jinXed by JaNx
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psp does it all
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Jan 4th, 2005 10:02 AM |
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Draco69
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To Samas-Adrian: Sorry for lateness.
1st: They never made as much much money as it cost to produce the games. There was no profit. Like I said read the Wall Street Journal.
2nd: Define "better games". It's a matter of opinion. For now, in my opinion, I would rather play Super Mario DS than Ridge Racers. But when Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy 7 spinoff, and Dynasty Warriors come out for PSP...
3rd: Sorry Samas I agree. But that's not our future. Cell phones are cameras, computers, and walkie-talkies now. The trend of technologies for many years to come will be "all in one" game systems. The PS2 and X-Box function as a DVD player and a hard drive and people loved it.
4th: If you're a hardcore gamer, who will develop a hunchback in the late twenties for playing handheld games too much, yeah the battery would be a problem. But for people, like me, that actually have life and don't devote six hours a day to video games, no this would not be a problem.
5th: The DS has wireless internet connection SOLELY for Pictochat, a lame version of instant messaging. The PSP has wireless internet connection for pretty much anything they can think of. Stuck on a level you can't beat? Pause the game and go to GameFAQs.com on the PSP to find out how to beat it.
PSP will most likely beat the DS.
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Jan 4th, 2005 10:15 PM |
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SaTsuJiN
Wielder of Thunder Seal
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lmao.. pause the game and go to gamefaqs... I'd like to see that take a year and a day just to type in www.gamefaqs.com , plus I'd like to see the processor handle more than the game itself without draining the battery life. All-in-one systems are over their head and will undoubtedly sink.. ever wonder why those cell phones get replaced in like 2 months? (unstable and fragile anyone?)
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Jan 4th, 2005 11:03 PM |
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Draco69
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Gender: Male
Location: United States |
Satsujin: your arguments valid. Making a video game system into a proverbial swiss army knife may backlash. But with respect to economic principles, I doubt the PSP will overcome the DS .
Think about it, you're a video game producer. You want to make as much money as possible and gain a reputation so you can make even more money. Who would you go with DS or PSP. Nintendo's stock in dropping like a stone. Sony's stock seems to grow by the day. As businessman, which company would you sign with?
It's never about the quality of games, or the unspoken "video gamer ethics 101", its about money. It's always been about money. I predict that if the DS falls flat, Nintendo may end up like Sega.
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Jan 4th, 2005 11:21 PM |
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Smasandian
Smell the Ashes
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So your saying is that the N64 and Gamecube didnt not make any profit at all because it cost too much to produce the games??
Or that it cost too much to produce the hardware?
I think thats full of crap that Nintendo didnt make a single dollar from the two systems
Actually, EGM did an issue about the upcoming debut games for each system and the came to a conclusion that DS had better games coming out.
True, that is the wave of the future. But those cellphones actually are useful. Why woulds somebody want to buy handheld that costs an extra 100 bucks because of these "Features" that are not very good when they have a cellphone that does it already thats cheaper.? XBOX and PS2 both have dvd drives, but they're not good compared to a regular dvd player.
Hardcore gamers move the industry, companies have to respect them.
DS Wireless can be used to play games online also and be able to play multiplayer matches with other DS similar to the link cable.
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Jan 4th, 2005 11:28 PM |
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dave123
Funny Boy
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Location: Cactusland? |
to be honest, I don't see much of a future for either the PSP or DS 
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Jan 4th, 2005 11:29 PM |
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Draco69
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No, Samas-Ardian. (Though doing it on disc would have been cheaper) The games were made, but they didn't sell. Nobody bought them. Let's say that I buy the materials to make a action figure. It cost a 100 dollars. I sell the action figures for 5 dollars. In a span of two years, 10 people bought one action figure each. I didn't make a profit because I only made 50 dollars in sales. I wasted money. Same deal with Nintendo.
Oh, Please. EGM isn't the Bible of video game systems. People write the magazines. People are biased. Therefore the magazine has bias. Every journalistic thread is biased. Gamespot.com is the exact opposite and seems to favor PSP. Noone is right or wrong.
Hardcore gamers are rapidly becoming the minority. More and more people are becoming casual gamers. In the past, it was only children and teenagers who played video games. Now, people of all ages play videogames. Young people and old people, jocks and geeks, men and women, priests and rabbis. I'm a casual gamer. I play video games casually when I have the time. I don't lock myself in my room and play Halo for 12 hours straight.
Yes, buying a cellphone for just using it as a means of communication is a nod to common sense. But the sales show otherwise. People now want cameras in their phones, calenders in their ipods, and blenders in their watches.
The DS wireless connection from my resources is limited. Several hundred feet seems to be the limit before it becomes wonky. So its exactly like the link cable. PSP has the same thing but more. Internet access, a future Itunes, MP3 playback, and it can play movies. The DS is outgunned in this department.
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Jan 4th, 2005 11:50 PM |
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JKozzy
Agent Kozzy
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Nintendo seems to be pretty strong to me, demand for the DS is up, every kid practically has at least one generation of game boy, I think they're pretty set for now... PSP is getting a pretty bad rep from the low battery life, dead pixels, popping discs, and other such defects. The features sure look promising, however so does the DS, imo. And I feel that I, nor anyone else can judge which is better fairly at the moment unless we have both a PSP and a DS in possession.
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Jan 5th, 2005 12:30 AM |
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Rhino
Red is the new black
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I think the psp will do ok, but Nintendo is the one that would lose the most in this competition-if PSP wins the battle than it would be a huge embarrassment for Nintendo...they've been runing the hand held gaming thing for a long time, and to have a Sony, release their first hand held system and win...that would be a huge upset
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Jan 5th, 2005 12:39 AM |
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Smasandian
Smell the Ashes
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Draco, i understand about profit. I'm not stupid. But your wrong.
You wrote, " The games were made, but they didn't sell." Your refering personally to Nintendo. First, Nintendo made the console. Lots of people bought the console. So they made a profit. If a game made FOR a Nintendo console didnt sell that was made by a 3rd Party Developer. Nintendo still made a profit.
Why is this correct?
Well, Nintendo didnt spend money on the game. They actually made money from the licensing fee that 3rd party developers need to pay. So if the game didnt sell, the company who made the game lost money.
But Nintendo does produce games also. But their games (Zelda, Mario and etc) are actually some of the top sellings videogames in history. So they made a profit.
True, magazines are biased. But EGM, which is very reputable magazine actually said that the PSP is more exicting that DS.
Casual players buy one or two games a year. Hardcore gamers buy 3 or 4 games a month. Who would you want?
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Jan 5th, 2005 06:23 AM |
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Draco69
Snarky Slytherin
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To Samas Adrian
Bloody teenagers. Nintendo still has to spend a large amount of money to produce, manufacture, and ship the games. The game companies give the game schematics to Nintendo. Nintendo puts the game schematics into the blank cartridge (that cost a lot to make) and produce them by hundreds. If the game did not make a lot of money, the game company who made the game loses the most money but Nintendo still loses a feasible amount. For the N64, the top-selling games had more profit than it did for the expenses. But for the other games the same could not be said. Nintendo lost money because of expenses and little profit.
Mario, Zelda and Metroid makes Nintendo a lot of money. But that's it. Nobody wants anything else. A few games cannot carry a company. The fact is Nintendo's stock is decreasing rapidly. This fact supports my argument.
Casual gamers outnumber hardcore gamers. Look at the titles coming out nowadays. It gears towards casual gamers. The Sims, GTA, Halo, etc. are all geared to hardcore gamers. Game companies took polls and found out that casual gamers far outweigh hardcore gamers.
Who do want? Nintendo, a company who's spiraling into bankruptcy (and almost did last year) or Sony, a company who's doing better than ever.
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Jan 5th, 2005 07:54 AM |
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Smasandian
Smell the Ashes
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Are you calling me a bloddy teenager?
True, I'm wrong about the manufacturing. But I have yet to see evidence that has said that Nintendo almost filed for bankruptcy. Everything thing i have read has been rumors.
How much stock has decreased? How much money did they lose because of this? How fast is decreasing?
From what ive seen and somewhat understand (i have no economic education) they have made a profit in hundred's of millions this past quarter.
If you can show me some sort of evidence that say's Nintendo is almost bankrupt or that they have no made a single dime from GC or N64 then im stilling not going to believe you.
And yes i rather have Nintendo. They produce hardware and games for people who love videogames. All Sony does is take the same console and stick more hardware into it. It does make money but sooner or later its going to bite them in the ass.
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Jan 5th, 2005 08:52 AM |
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BackFire
Blood. It's nature's lube
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DS, nintendo will always have a clean grasp on the portable gaming market. I haven't really seen any interesting PSP games from the list of upcoming titles, I have seen numerous DS games that look superb.
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Jan 5th, 2005 09:19 AM |
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General Kaliero
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Good lord, but your bickering is annoying. If you have a valid argument, Draco 69, just show actual proof that Nintendo stocks are shrinking. I find that extremely hard to believe. Even if the GCN isn't doing too well, sales from game boys, GBAs, GBA SPs, and the DS itself are increasing Nintendo's profit exponentially.
The GameBoy alone produced more money than the PS2 has. Every kid I know above the age of 5 has some form of a GameBoy, and just walking through a mall, you're guaranteed to see at least two kids-to-teenagers walking around with their nose in a GameBoy.
for the casual gamers vs. hardcore gamers argument, Samas-adian is right. Casual gamers buy a new game about every six months. Hardcore gamers buy a new game at least twice a month. For profit from the casual gamers to even EQUAL profit from hardcore gamers, the casuals would have to outnumber the hardcores at least 12 to 1!
Sure, the extra stuff on the PSP is nice, but I can pick up a portable DVD player with a larger screen for 30 or 40 dollars. And for your internet connection, the people that the swiss-army-knife systems are aimed at probably already have a cell phone with internet access. and will likely buy at least one more before the PSP is out over here.
And for the games argument, I'd like to state that when Final Fantasy I & II came out, it included a survey card asking what games people would like to see Square Enix make for the DS. Included on the list were Final Fantasy III, IV (the great game previously known in the States as FFII ), V, VI, and Chrono Trigger.
The DS is going to get a crapload of RPGs. And if I remember correctly, the RPGs are the reasons most people buy Sony systems.
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Jan 5th, 2005 05:55 PM |
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ZomBiE_HunTER
To Serve
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I might get the psp when it cums out but so far i really dont see any good games.
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Jan 5th, 2005 08:41 PM |
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Draco69
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For the last time, for proof of Nintendo's shrinking stock, read the Wall Street Journal!
To General Kaliero: Finally, somebody with a logical argument. As for the games, its purely a matter of opinion.
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Jan 5th, 2005 08:45 PM |
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Rhino
Red is the new black
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y doesnt the PSP take the easy way out for the launch title games?-they could just get one of their older classic games from the consoles and u know, port it to the psp like mario ds
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Jan 6th, 2005 02:11 AM |
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Draco69
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Yeah, they're already doing that. Devil May Cry, Spiderman 2, FF7 spinoff, Dynasty Warriors
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Jan 6th, 2005 02:22 AM |
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Rhino
Red is the new black
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those games are good, y r ppl saying they dont see any good games for psp?
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Jan 6th, 2005 02:40 AM |
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ZomBiE_HunTER
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The good games aint out now.
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Last edited by ZomBiE_HunTER on Jan 6th, 2005 at 04:11 AM
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Jan 6th, 2005 04:02 AM |
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