According to the Bible the “End Times” Should Have ALREADY Occurred!
Jesus and his apostles made MANY prophecies concerning the Armageddon. Christians would have you believe that it shall come as “a thief in the night”. Yet, the Bible is rather clear concerning when it would happen. Matter of fact, the Bible consistently said it would follow soon after Jesus’ death. When you point out such verses to Christians they will try to weasel it out of it by saying Christ was talking about his “future” apostles versus the ones he was directly speaking to. All it takes is a close examinations of the pronouns used in order to see that Christ truly did believe the end times would have happened nearly 2,000 years ago. Keep in mind that the Bible claims it is “fit for reproof’ and Christianity “lives and dies on the resurrection and end times”. If we are to believe these verses and accept that the end time prophecies failed then surely the whole book is invalid.
False Prophecies About the Armageddon:
Jesus’ Predictions:
1) Jesus falsely prophesies DIRECTLY to the high priest (Caiphas) that he would live to see his second coming. Jesus uses the term “coming on the clouds of heaven”. This clearly negates the “coming” as the resurrection but as a return to the earth on CLOUDS, not his return in human form from the dead. Matthew 26:64 & Mark 14:62.
"But I tell you: From now on you will see 'the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power' and 'coming on the clouds of heaven.'" (Matthew 26:64 NAB)
Then Jesus answered, "I am; and 'you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.'" (Mark 14:62 NAB)
2) Jesus mistakenly tells his followers that he will return and establish his kingdom within their lifetime. Matthew 23:36 & 24:34
Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. (Matthew 23:36 NAB)
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. "Learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Matthew 24:29-35 NAB)
3) YET AGAIN, Jesus claims those standing RIGHT BEFORE HIM shall see the Armageddon. Matthew 16:28 “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Don’t let Christians lie to you and claim Jesus was referring to his modern day believers. The words “some standing HERE will not taste death” clearly refutes such nonsense. Obviously the people he was speaking to died, and curiously Jesus STILL isn’t here to claim his kingdom.
4) Jesus falsely prophesies that the end of the world will come within his listeners’ lifetimes.
Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Mark 13:30-31 NAB)
He also said to them, "Amen, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come in power." (Mark 9:1 NAB)
5) Jesus falsely predicts that some of his listeners would live to see him return and establish the kingdom of God.
"Truly I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God." (Luke 9:27 NAB)
6) Jesus implies that he will return to earth during the lifetime of John. (John 21:22)
7) Jesus says that all that he describes (his return, signs in the sun, moon, wars, stars, etc.) will occur within the lifetime of his listeners. He purposely defines their generation and NOT a future one. Considering that NONE of those signs took place during the resurrection and that he uses the term of “Heaven and earth shall pass away”, Clearly Jesus is prophesizing that nearly 2,000 years ago Armageddon SHOULD have occurred. Luke 21:25-33
"There will be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars, and on earth nations will be in dismay, perplexed by the roaring of the sea and the waves. People will die of fright in anticipation of what is coming upon the world, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. But when these signs begin to happen, stand erect and raise your heads because your redemption is at hand." He taught them a lesson. "Consider the fig tree and all the other trees. When their buds burst open, you see for yourselves and know that summer is now near; in the same way, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Luke 21:25-33 NAB)
[Editor's note: Matthew 10:23 also has Jesus telling his disciples that the second coming will occur before the disciples finish preaching in Israel: "When they persecute you in one town, flee to another. Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes." (Matthew 10:23 NAB)]
John’s Predictions
8) John believes “the time is at hand,” and that the things that he writes about in Revelation will “shortly come to pass.” Revelations 1:1-3
9) John quotes Jesus (1900 years ago) as saying he will come “quickly.” Revelations 22:7, 12 & 20
10) John thinks he is living in “the last times.” He “knows” this because he sees so many antichrists around. 1 John 2:18
11) John says that the antichrist was already present at the time 1 John was written. 1 John 4:3
12) John quotes Jesus (1900 years ago) as saying he will come “quickly.” Revelations 3:11, 22:7, 12 & 20
Paul’s Predictions
13) Paul thought that the end was near and that Jesus would return soon after he wrote these words. Philippians 4:5
14) Paul believes he is living in the “last days.” Hebrews 1:2
15) Paul believed that Jesus would come “in a little while, and will not tarry.” Hebrews 10:37
16) In 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Paul stated: “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: And the dead Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air: And so shall we ever be with the Lord.” Paul shared the delusion, taught by Jesus, in that he expected to be snatched up bodily into heaven with other saints then living, who would, thus, never taste death. The use of “we” clearly proves as much. It is difficult to deny that Paul was certain that the end of the world was coming in the lifetime of his contemporaries.
Other Prophecies About Armageddon:
17) James thought that Jesus would return soon. James 5:8
18) Peter wrongly believed that he was living in the “last times” and that “the end of all things is at hand.” 1 Peter 1:20 & 4:7
thoughts?
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Jesus stated that the hour/day/year is unknown when He returns. Jesus didn't say directly that His return would happen in His Disciples lifetime. He said that His return is imminent. I think that His return could be in our lifetime. The birth pains He talked about at the end times are fastly growing. Famines, earthquakes in places they usually aren't, wars and rumors of wars.
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But for them to live to see his return, they could be 'dead' - when a christian dies they believe they will live again in heaven, and that Christ has granted them eternal life. How do you know that he meant corporeal, mortal life?
...then dont read the thread.
i mean, plus, you'll be dead and gone by the time it "happens."
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I wonder when the European Union will be led by 666 , it shouldnt be long by now should it ? , after all , many signs have already occured , Israel has been back for a little while already and natural disasters are everywhere nowadays ! , when will 666 be comeing to ''save'' the world , and when will we all have to wear that sign on our head or forehand .
Eh, well if it does I'll be on my knees repenting.
Dont you think it'll be awsome though? To die in the apocolypse? I'm sure like all the other people in the afterlife are like "yeah how'd you die?"
"car crash, you?"
"fell down some stairs."
"oh."
"YEAH!? Well I died in the fu.cking APOCOLYPSE baby!"
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Um we are living in the end times it says in the bible that their would be signs in the sun moon and stars and that the seas and the waves would be roaring and their would be earthquakes in diverse places and in the middle east their is a place called Megiddo that is where Armageddon will take place when kings of east march across ufraties river and third of the world will die right now they are making computer chips to place in your hands well in the bible during tribulation period you won't be able to buy or sell without that mark of the beast which will send a person to hell forever. Also there is nuclear weapons build up and the last sign before Jesus comes would be terrorism and won't stop till Jesus comes back at the battle of Armageddon so be ready or face great white throne judgement that is to come when god judges the nations.
there is at least another interpretation saying that america is evil country thats controlled by the devil so... please give some further explanations here and tell us where you got this idea from or who told you that it would be right the way you told us....
thanks
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Jan 7th, 2005 02:56 AM
