um wonderwoman n rouge will be the strongest two, i duno about starfire n al them but i think rouge wil end up winning cause from what i heard at the comic shop from a guy that spend most his life on comics, he said rouge and wonderwoman have around equal powers so the fight can take forever but its a matter of who gets who first, like wonderwoman could win by her robe or rouge could absorb her powers so i gues it depends on who acts first, id go for rouge tough, cause rouge can beat almost anyone! (only in comic n cartoon, not in movie)
For a guy working in a comic shop, he's very, very wrong, lol. Wonder Woman far outclasses Rogue in the strength, speed, and fighting skill department.
i spose you know better?? well i know who to go for, i would very much trust a guy workin in comic store than you. Wonderwoman does not outclass rouge, they had a fight before and it was a good match, besides it would be alot better you proving your point and telling us instead of just saying wonder woman is better.....it spose to b a discussion. Btw i like both marvel n dc so i aint taking any sides, cause i like both the girls.
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so Rogue is back to the ms.marvel verison huh...she's not the Rogue lite like she is the movies anymore...I haven't read an Xbook with Rogue in it for a couple of monthes.
No, I don't create comics, but I still know damn well that Wonder Woman outclasses Rogue regardless. Rogue with Ms. Marvel's powers is about class 50 strength, barely good enough to shake someone like Thor. Wonder Woman on the other hand is near Superman level strength, which is pretty much common knowledge. Now, if you bothered to read a comic book or look it up rather than trust the word of some guy in a comic shop who knows less than he should, you would understand this. Rogue's only chance of beating Wonder Woman is to absorb her powers if she got the chance, and there's a chance that may not work anyways with Wonder Woman being mystical in nature.
Wonder Woman possesses reflex abilities similar to lower-level speedsters such as Jesse Quick and Max Mercury, somewhere in the range of 8 to 20 times normal human reflexes with concentration. She, however, does not maintain her enhanced speed awareness due to the temporal difficulties such thinking causes her. She seems able to keep up with Jesse Quick, referencing her patron deity of speed and messenger of the gods, Hermes as the source of her powers.
It is unknown how long she can maintain a speedster’s average pace (which we clock at approximately 125 mph (2.08 miles/second) to 200 mph (3.3 mile/sec) inner-city and 225 mph (3.75 miles/sec) to 500 mph (8.3 miles/sec) over land outside of cities). Since Wonder Woman lacks the speed aura of true speedsters, the environmental effects/disruptions that she causes probably prevent her from utilizing superspeed mobility as a common mode of travel.
Wonder Woman is capable of unassisted flight through an as yet unknown but probably magical means. She has been clocked at Mach 3 (2,100 mph, 35 miles per second) in flight and can be presumed to be much faster if she wanted to be. No reliable ceiling is known but atmospheric disturbances occur at speeds greater than Mach 10 (7,000 mph, 116 miles/sec) so that is probably her limit in atmosphere as well.
Okay, we now have the data. You’ve consistently said that Diana is not faster than the speed of sound. The information above discredits this notion. The above source does not say that Diana CAN’T travel at the speed of sound, on foot, but why it would be unwise to travel beyond 500 mph. Speedsters like the Flash are connected to the Speed Force. They have an aura that protects the environment around them from being altered by their immense speed. That’s why Wally doesn’t create a massive hurricane every time he breaks the sound barrier. Diana is not connected to the Speed Force. She lacks a speedsters’ aura. If she were to breach the sound barrier on terra firma, the results would be disastrous to the surrounding area. If it were in a populated area, she would blow out every window on the street and cause millions of dollars in property damage. That’s why she rarely utilizes it unless she has to. Flight is another aspect. The source above plainly states that Diana can fly at Mach 3 and could fly much faster if she wanted to (i.e. Mach 10). The reason she doesn’t is because flying at that speed would cause massive atmospheric disturbances. The above also mentions Jesse Quick. When Diana teamed up with Jesse Quick, She was able to keep up with Jesse Quick. (Wonder Woman Plus Jesse Quick #1 [1996]: Written by Christopher Priest; art and cover by Mike Collins and Tom Palmer.) How fast is Jesse Quick? By speaking the mantra, ‘3x2(9YZ) 4A’, Jesse can accelerate to roughly half-lightspeed and can fly.
In another portion of starnet-database.com, there is section called the “analyses files.” When you open the “Ratings” tab, you’ll see the super speed segment. It shows who the fastest heroes are in the DC Universe. There are as followed:
Superspeed/Reflexes
Flash
Superman
Martian Manhunter
Wonder Woman
The Flash can accelerate past lightspeed. Superman cannot travel at lightspeed, but is just under it, MM can not travel lightspeed but is just under Superman’s limit, and Wonder Woman cannot travel at lightspeed but is just under MM’s limit. Light speed equals 299,792,458 meters/second (186,000 miles/second). The speed of sound is at approximately 343 m/s. (750 miles per hour) .We know that she can obviously fly faster than the speed of sound. Her max speed on terra firma is 500 miles per hour. Only 251 miles per hour before breaching the sound barrier. Not by choice or limitation, but because if she exceeds the speed of sound on land, the proverbial sh@# will hit the fan for the area around her. Thus from all this we can deduce that Diana is faster the speed of sound.
Superstrength:
First, I’m going to refer to the spacecraft you’ve been hearing so much about. During the Grant Morrison arc on the JLA, just after the Martian storyline, we see the very first appearance of the fallen Angel Zauriel. During the battle with the Angels we see a fantastically huge airship hovering over the city (Central City, I believe). Zauriel calls this a war chariot for the angels trying to overthrow God. Wonder Woman breaks into the airship and disables the main computer. Unfortunately the ship begins to fall and threatens to destroy the entire city. Wonder Woman takes it upon herself (she was the one who made fall in the first place) to support the entire ship until the other Justice League members find a way to transport it back to heaven. This angel war chariot was the BIGGER than the city itself. Diana supported this humongous ship until Wally made it go away. It must have weighed an incredible amount of tons.
From the same website, at the “Ratings” tap, we can see that Wonder Woman is classified as “B”. B stands for a person who can lift UP TO 100 tons. This is debatable with the previous feat in mind, but I’m going to go out a limb, and say this is accurate.
Rogue is nowhere near WW's level. Rogue is class 50 and WW is class 100. WW can go toe to toe with the Hulk and win.
The only chance that Rogue has is her absorbtion powers. But they may not work since Diana is goddess and Rogues' powers have not worked on some magical beings (i.e. Loki)
wtf. r u saying wonderwoman can defeat hulk? but i tought superman couldnt beat hulk so how could she beat hulk if superman couldnt do it? besides i heard that hulk never dies, like wolverine, i heard that world exploded and hulk was stil alive floating in the space. wel since u seem to know about the strength of these women can u tel me the strength of the rest? Strom Rogue Elektra Typhiod Mary Wonder Woman and Starfire. Tel me their strength level n also who is the most powerful of them all if they fought one at a time.
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