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IRTMU-Dragon
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Thats what I said... Colossus is like ten times stronger now.


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If The Thing was already 20 times stronger than him though, doesn't matter.

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Colossus was already stronger than Thing. Using the traditional Marvel tons lifting scale, Colossus, before his current beef-up, he weighed in at 90 tons. His current level is somewhere between 90 and 100 tons, it hasn't specified. Thing goes at about 85. The only reason Thing would win is because he's better and more experienced in fist brawling.

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"The only reason Thing would win is because he's better and more experienced in fist brawling."

Isn't exactly gonna be ballet when they fight is it?

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"The only reason Thing would win is because he's better and more experienced in fist brawling."

Isn't exactly gonna be ballet when they fight is it?

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Youd like it to be, wouldnt you?


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Why are you following me into every single thread to try and get something started? Stop being a fool. You are posting things to me of no relevance to the thread we are in, that's flaming.

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Like has been asked on this forum before, where and when has it actually said that Colossus has gotten a big power boost? And don't mention the Ultimate version.


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I wouldn't. Colossus is stronger and tougher, so he should win from Thing.


Hulk is as well, Thing doesn't seem to care.

Colossus is a jobber in my opinion.


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quote:
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Hulk is as well, Thing doesn't seem to care.

Thing doesn't seem to care ? What ? Thing admits he's not in the same league as Hulk.

The only clear victory Thing ever had over Hulk, is when he was Spike-Thing (or what's his name), and this was when the weakest Hulk - Grey dude - incarnation underestimated Spike-Thing.

And even the stronger Spike-Thing got defeated by Grey Hulk.


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"Thing doesn't seem to care ? What ? Thing admits he's not in the same league as Hulk."

I think he was implying that Colossus being stronger and tougher isn't gonna deterr him from fighting, as Hulk is tougher and stronger also and he still fought him.

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Because you always have to disagree, the majority of this thread right now is saying Colussus is powerful enough to handle The Thing, you argue against it.
85 class, VS 100 class, the stronger will win, who cares about fighting style if you can lift a building, and your competitor can lift a truck...

Thats not real to there actual ability, its just an example.


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BTW, The Thing mustve at one time been in league with the hulk...

and if you cant make out the pic that The Thing giving Hulk a nice big PUNCH... which sent him flying.

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BTW, Colossus' boost was heavily implied in his ressurrection issues in Astonishing X-men. Which is why, in my post, I said he was somewhere 90-100. He may not have had an actual boost, hence 90, but if he did then he wouldn't have gone past 100 tons range

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BTW, The Thing mustve at one time been in league with the hulk...

and if you cant make out the pic that The Thing giving Hulk a nice big PUNCH... which sent him flying.

So Thing gave him a nice uppercut or so. So what ?

I ask you one thing : do not make me scan ALL the panels in which Thing got handled badly by Hulk...


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im joking dude, but he mustve been able to do something to the hulk in the past...

I still think Collusus would kill him.


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"Because you always have to disagree, the majority of this thread right now is saying Colussus is powerful enough to handle The Thing, you argue against it."

I didn't argue against it you simpleton. I merely said pointed out, when it was brought to light that Thing is a better fighter, that it wouldn't come down to technique, it would be a brawl. A brawl than Thing would win I believe. Besides, just coz everyone is saying one thing, doesn't mean I HAVE to agree if I don't believe they are correct. Hell, we've seen the reverse happen in another famous thread.

"BTW, The Thing mustve at one time been in league with the hulk...

and if you cant make out the pic that The Thing giving Hulk a nice big PUNCH... which sent him flying."

Do you spend your life searching for Anti-Hulk stuff? Don't call anyone a fan boy again and expect to be taken seriously, just advice.

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Happy Dance Simpleton! Wee!
You are a good insulter dude... If tron/paola wasnt here im sure youd say more than that... Which is fine with me I dont really care what you call me.

Anti-Hulk stuff? Do I search for it?
Yes, I do... And as a matter of fact there are ALOT of times when the hulk has almost been destroyed even before he could get mad enough to do anything about it. All that picture shows is at SOME point ,The Thing mustve been able to duke it out with Hulk without getting his ass handed to him immediatly...
But theres no doubt in my mind that with a bit more anger The Hulk couldve stood against that punch... I dunno though it did send him flying.


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Thing doesn't seem to care ? What ? Thing admits he's not in the same league as Hulk.

The only clear victory Thing ever had over Hulk, is when he was Spike-Thing (or what's his name), and this was when the weakest Hulk - Grey dude - incarnation underestimated Spike-Thing.

And even the stronger Spike-Thing got defeated by Grey Hulk.


Yes, I know this. I didn't at any point imply Thing would win, I said he doesn't care that he is outgunned. All you did was go on to state the implied part of my post.

Further, if he can put up a good fight against the Hulk, I don't see Colossus being anything more than his equal.


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when you're as strong as the thing or colossus you can hurt almost anyone, i believe a more skillful 80 level fighter could take out a low 100 leveler the likes of cap DD and spidey knock the crap out of way more powerful (stronger anyway) guys all the time, strength alone doesn't win fights, it helps obviously but as seen in hundreds of spidey and DD fights if you don't actualy get hit it doesn't matter if the other guy is human or 50 class, everyone (almost) will tire and go down to a superior combatant, the thing is a better fighter - he can take this


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"Anti-Hulk stuff? Do I search for it?
Yes, I do... And as a matter of fact there are ALOT of times when the hulk has almost been destroyed even before he could get mad enough to do anything about it. All that picture shows is at SOME point ,The Thing mustve been able to duke it out with Hulk without getting his ass handed to him immediatly...
But theres no doubt in my mind that with a bit more anger The Hulk couldve stood against that punch... I dunno though it did send him flying."

This all boils down to you and every other Juggernaut fan thinking that Anger = what is needed for Hulk to be strong.

It isn't. It's just one of the things that he can get to that point with.

If Hulk gets punch, sent flying, then gets up and wins the fight convincingly, the one punch is of no consequence. Coz in the end, it didn't help Thing.

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