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Doom isn't viewed as unbeatable by anyone that I've ever met on these forums, Baker.

Dunno where you've been reading things.

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And about the Doom issue, please, dont post conclusions in my mouth that i haven never posted. Doctor Doom is one of my favourite characters off all time, but when i say that he is overrated in these forums is because a group of people is all the time saying that he could beat anybody and he owns all and garbage of that style. He is a great character, but he isnt unbetable at all, he always losses at the end, so the staments that he owns all are totally false and ridiculous. And not, i like the villains even more that the heroes, i think that they are more complex and better characters, this isnt a matter of villain or heroe, is a matter of people overrating a character too much. Is like batman, he is one of my favourite characters too, but he is very overrated here too. I hate that preparation time garbage.
Well every character has his/her fanboys...and they do tend to make flippant remarks that make little or no sense. But you'll never catch me, or any other knowledgeable Dr. Doom fan who recognizes and appreciates his accomplishments, try to put him on par with cosmic level characters. As much as I love Doom, I don't think he'd be able to stand up to Thanos, but the time and effort he would exhaust and the ingenius plan he would be sure to conjure up, would be worthy of respect. It's not like people respect him cause he has a cool outfit, gauntlet blasts, etc., it's because he regularly accomplishes goals, or tries to, that are beyond his means...and people appreciate that, whether he succeeds or not. If you somehow equate that with overrating him, then you're wrong.

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Overrated:
Magneto
Wolverine
Captain America - just a little bit

Underrated:
Gladiator
Iron Man
Vision
Beast - cause him and his expertise are always in the shadow of Mr. Fantastic when a big crossover comes along...(ie. Infinity War...he was busy ordering pizza! mad )

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Well, there are a lot of people who has posted things that dooms owns all and doom can beat anybody, you will see it in the doom batles in the vs forum.

I repeat, i like Doctor Doom a lot, he is my favourite villain from comics and one of my favourite characters, And yeah, he is a genious and a great villain, but i think that people overrated him too much even he is a fantastic character with many and many recourses.

More overrated: batman, silver surfer, blade.

More underrated: beast, vision, scarlet witch, wonder man, hercules, namor.


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Surfer overrated? Where are you getting this stuff?

People never even speak about Surfer until recently and even then people are pointing out that he can lose.

I've personally never seen anyone say Doom can beat anybody.

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Again, see the threads with doctor doom fights in it, you'll see it.

And yeah, surfer is a little overrated, he is powerful, but not that powerful as may people claims. In one hulk issue, he coudnt beat namor underwater.

And what are you talking about? almost all the characters has been discussed in the vs forum, surfer between them. And he is a little overrated there.


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Again, see the threads with doctor doom fights in it, you'll see it.

And yeah, surfer is a little overrated, he is powerful, but not that powerful as may people claims. In one hulk issue, he coudnt beat namor underwater.

And what are you talking about? almost all the characters has been discussed in the vs forum, surfer between them. And he is a little overrated there.


thats because he simply is that powerful... power cosmic and all... he's not overrated...


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under rated is venom why you say everyone takes him for a piss ant he went threw the sinister six the freeking jury 5 symbiotes and spiderman and beat superman


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first of all... read the superman venom comic... it was complete bull...

venom is strong, but he's not in marvels top level...


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there we have it it again so many people under rate venom. i bet u i could post bucky vs venom and all of you people would pick bucky


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i think your overrating venom... hes on a similar level to spiderman... maybe a bit above...


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well i mate be overrating him alittle but venoms a power house


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he is powerful, but he is not on the level of thor, surfer, supes or hulk...


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Baker,

I've read the Doom threads. No one has seriously entertained the idea that he's unbeatable.

Surfer is NOT overrated.

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Baker,

I've read the Doom threads. No one has seriously entertained the idea that he's unbeatable.

Surfer is NOT overrated.

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Yeah I agree with you...I think a lot of people are just joking around when they inflate Doom's importance...and yeah, Surfer is nowhere near overrated, either.

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This thread is so confusing! Maybe I'm reading it wrong but it says "Marvel" and yet I see the names of Superman and Batman????? When did the man of steel and the caped crusader moved to Marvel Comics???

Anyways, the most overrated Marvel Characters are defenetly Spiderman, The Fantastic 4, Venom, and the Hulk.

most underrated Marvel Characters would be Moon Knight, Cage, Cable, Colossus, and Mysterio.


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Of course Doom is not a realistic match for a Thanos Or Silver Surfer. In a stright on fight. However Dr Doom has proven time and time again that he can give the best of them trouble. His accomplishments speak for themselves. I am a fan of Doom's and all but i also try to be realistic (yes this is comics). You all remember the story behind the picture below

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Lets see, alpha centaury, so you are seeing another diferent topics that the ones that im seeing, because in these topics, there are a lot of people saying " doom can beat anyone" and that kind of things. I dont know if is a joke or not, but there are.

About surfer issue, i think that we are a little confused in this topic, because i think that im talking about another different issue that some people, because i think that the topic is about the marvel characterswho are underrated and overrated by the people in this forum, not characters overrated and underrated generally. Tell me if im wrong.


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" doom can beat anyone"

You said people claim he is unbeatable. The above comment doesn't imply that.

Maurice Greene, at one point the Earth's fastest man, could beat anyone. He wasn't undefeatable though.

I don't think Surfer is overrated at all, to be honest.

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I was refering sentences like that, not that sentence exactly.

I posted about doom and surfer at least 100 times, so i wont continue with the issue.


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Haha, wink

Ok.

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