Yeah, we don't see him often in the movie, all the Great ones we do not see often. I will just hope they make a movie of the samirillion and then we only can hope to see Melkor, that would be gooooood...
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bare cold heart; void thoughts.
Empty inside; blank state of mind,
being nothing at all; divinity in peace.
But Sauron is the Dark Lord and all creatures (human or non-human) shall kneel before Him, for He shall return...and there shall be no victory against Mordor or Him, YOU WILL ALL DIE!
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bare cold heart; void thoughts.
Empty inside; blank state of mind,
being nothing at all; divinity in peace.
gandalf isnt a man, he's a wizard, and refers to men as if he wasnt one of them, because he isnt. and furthermore, gandlaf wuld whip the b*tch king's arse.
The guy that wrote that scene in the EE of ROTK was drunk, he dont know nothing about the real story of JRRT. Look, to begin with, Gandalf defeated a Balrog! A Balrog is far more powerfull them the little witch king (that was only a men before), and Gandalf defeated him when he was grey, imagine what he could do now that he is white.
About the part that said that no men could ever kill him: it is just a profecy or something like it, and tolkien like to write things like that in his books (if you guys realy understand about LOTR you should know that!). That doesent mean that Gandalf couldnt kill him even if he try to, it means that was suposed to be woman, and it was, and if a woman could kill him them Gandalf could turn him into ashes.
In the book, I belive you have read it, Gandalf and witch king just look to each other, nothing else! Or Gandalf would kill him right away, it would be far more easy then a Balrog!
In the Return of The King book, when Sauron was looking to everyone, only Gandalf was imponent beyond his eyes. (only Gandalf!)
In the first book TOLKIEN wrote that Gandalf would become like the dark lord himself if he take the ring, so, logicaly, Gandalf is powerfull enough to Defeat Sauron if he dont wear the ring, and Gandalf would certainly defeat him after he became white, because Tolkien wrote in his book ( you just have to read it) that no power on earth could hurt him, and that leads to Gandalf x witch king, the "powerfull" witch king could never, ever have hurted him like he did on the movie!
Oh and there is one more thing, Gandalf is a Maiar for Cryst Sake, there is no way the witch king is more powerful then Gandalf, he was only a man before, and Gandalf was an acient spirit, older then the earth, more powerfull them all other races (especialy dark spirits corrupted by Sauron) just the Valars where more powerfull them the maiars!
To finish this I want to say that you guys that think the witch king is more powerful than Gandalf (hehe)...go to hell and stay there forever, you are not real fans of TLOTR and dont have to put your opinions about something you have saw in a movie. Think with me guys: Wich King can defeat Gandalf, but Gandalf is a Maiar, Sauron is a Maiar as well, Hmm...
so witch king is strong enouth to destroy Sauron? Hmm... I DONT THINK SO!!!!! You guys are nutts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you were as big a book fan as you say you are, you will have noted that the significant blow was struck by Merry- a Hobbit, not a Man- not by Eowyn.
Only Merry was carrying a weapon that could hurt the Witch-King.
(that's not true; so was Aragorn, but the point still remains).
What the Witch-King was before is irrelevant; he is a very potent threat indeed and Tolkien clearly builds him up as one, even compared to Gandalf.
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Last edited by Ushgarak on Sep 16th, 2005 at 08:42 PM