I can't wait for the next Spider-Man movie. but I really doubt the next villain be venom, 'cause I heard Sam Raimi doesn't like that villain. I have no idea why, though.
I hope it's the Lizard. They already introduced him in the second movie, and it would pump the fans up for another movie. Spider Man could easily get 5 or more movies. Especially if Batman's 3 and 4 were given so much money.
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are u not spidey fans? its quite obvious it will problably be scorpion, they have all set up, harry found the potion of strengh, james hates spiderman, and harry hates peter,(what u though that sadic smile in the church was for?) , it was like, i know how to revenge now.
back to topic, harry as oscorp industries set up with jameson to destroy spiderman once and for all, since he couldnt kill his friend himself,jameson acept, creats scorpion like the 90s cartoon, as a new hero to take spidey down, and again put the hole city agains him, so in fact cops will be most of spiderman problems plus, social life, plus, scorpiom,plus jameson, and maybe even harry makes it up with peter saving him in the end, and hopefully dieng, so we have never to see that lame actor again,
ps not again, on raimi franchise, becouse tll they change spidey 3 is the last one.
they could use some minor villains like shocker, even if that is only on a new broadcasting on tv, it would of be fun, or like a 5 or 10 minutes fight, like theyve know each other for a few duels, and thats the final
iŽd love to see shocker on a movie........
they should do also a kraven last hunt. would be a nice homenage to the CB
hm im embarassed some1 actually missed me, but thank you.
and i desagree with you for one reason, sam planed 3 movies, the fans wanted 3 movies like the old star wars saga, and now sony itself is pushing this movie to be his last, so lizard has no plot and would diverge into a another spidey movie, so the vilain has to be close to spider and his powers, who else than scorpion, imagine the hole city really against spiderman like in the comics and them him triumph like the real hero, thats gonna be the best super hero movie ever!
my though of course.......ehy is bad simbiotic gonne?
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I would say the lizard has more of a chance of being in the third movie than the Scorpion, because Doc Connors has already been introduced. The plots that I posted were how I would like to see the movies done if they were going to use Venom, they are in no way the actual plots of any movie in the franchise. So though I have the Lizard spread over two movies in my plotting, there is no reason he has to be.
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My idea follows ultimate spider-man, kind of. Eddy Brock is a student who knew spidey as a kid like the ultimate universe. Him and Peter re-create Venom from their father's notes. Conners becomes lizard, spidey uses venom symbiote to fight the lizard, Eddy recognizes it. When he finds out he flips, about spidey stealing his work. Peter manages to cure Connors, but the symbiote drives him to attack the cured and battle weary connors, hospitalizing him. Peter trys to destroy the symbiote, but it makes it's way back to it's other creator Eddy Brock. (Peter proposes to Mj, and she says no, like she did originally in the comics, and she leaves.)
4th movie: Spidey vs. Venom, with Peter trying to get through to his friend inside the symbiote. Venom kills someone close to spidey (Please god, be aunt may!) resulting in a very brutal fight. in the end, eddy manages to escape. And in a moment of sanity boards a pplane to San Francisco, like in the normal comics, except now it's because he tried to kill a friend, and murdered someone who was just an innocent bystander. CARNAGE NEVER APPEARS IN A SPIDER-MAN MOVIE. Marvel has wanted to do a Venom movie for years. Carnage is saved for the spinoff. SM4 ends with Harry visiting the still recovering connors asking him for help against spidey, whom he now has a grudge against for attacking him. Oh, and have harry start dating Liz Allen (his future wife)
SM5 Harry and connors create the scorpion, or the sand man, or both. Spidey wins, but harry recovers some on peters blood. introduce Miles Warren (No I'm not gonna in clude a clone saga, though I'm more of a ben reilly fan than peter parker fan.) John Jameson is injured or killed in the battle. (Harry marries Liz, MJ returns as made of honor, Peter is Best man. Harry want's to lure pter into a false sense of security, at least in regards to them.)
SM6 Jameson funds Spider slayers, with the help of Harry. Osborn has given Peters blood to warren, along with his fathers notes, in the hopes that warren will create a better goblin formula. Harry doesn't expect the spiderslayers to kill peter. That's not their purpose when he sends them out. He just want's them to weaken him.The end of the movie sees Harry injest a new liquid goblin-spidey hybrid formula. (Harry finds out somewhere that liz is pregnant. MJ Proposes to Peter)
SM7 Harry vs. Peter. Harry has a combination of goblin, and spider powers, and may not set off Spidey's Spider sense. Also, harry has a new costume, and is calling himself hobgoblin. Peter refuses to fight his friend, and nearly dies as a result. Liz allen, harry's pregnant wife shows up in the middle of a collapsing building. Harry gives his life saving his pregnant wife, while peter barely get's out. Peter recover's harry's body, empties his wallet and leave's him in an alley somewhere, the police assume he was mugged. (Peter marries MJ toward the beginning of the movie.In the end she says she's pregnant.)
SM8 At the beginning Spidey catches the chameleon, who is working for a shadowy figure. His Boss get's himout of jail, when the chameleon promises him a man who can kill Spider-man: The chameleon's half brother, Kraven the hunter. Chameleon's boss kills him, then contacts kraven, informing him that Spider-man has killed his brother. Kraven is enhanced by the mystery man, via genetic engineering. MJ Gives birth to a little girl while peter is fighting Kraven. We see MJ in a hospital screaming for her baby, who has mysteriously dissappeared. When Spidey defeat's Kraven, his reclusive benefactor steps out where Spidey can see him, And peter responds in shock that he thought the individual was dead. Movie ends without revealing the mistery man, but I'm sure many Spidey fans of at least 6 or 7 years can guess.
SM 9, The Man is revealed to be Norman Osborn, revived due to the healing properties of the Goblin formula. He taunt's peter that he has Spidey's daughter, and that f he doesn't do as he says, the child will meet an unfortunate end. Peter says that even Norman's not that evil. Norman says that it would merely be an eye for an eye for harry's death. He give's peter 24 hours to decide, and says to meet him at The site of Norman Osborn's death. Peter check's with Mj, their daughter is indeed gone. Peter goes into Daily Bugle Archives, hoping to find something to use against Osborn, only to learn that he has bought the paper. he threatens to leave peter jobless, as well as childless, if he doesn't comply. A mysterious man named Kain (not a clone in this interpretation, but I'll get to that eventually), appears and offers to help him get his daughter back, but not until Spidey accepts Norman's deal and causes alot of chaos. Peter goes after osborn, and kain get's May, Peter's daughter. Peter is severely injured, but as Norman in about to kill him, Kain attacks him. Kain tells Peter to get his daughter out of there, as he and osborn dissappear into an inferno. Movie End's with Peter findin out that he has lost the use of one of his legs, and needs a cane to walk. When Peter returns home, he finds a bloddy goblin mask, and a note saying that osborn is indeed dead this time, and to watch over his family. Peter retires as Spider-man, but movie ends with may shooting a web at a toy or something.
That's how I'd do it. This was actually fun imagining, and I think I'll actually write these out, at least as fan fics. what do you people think?
Making Eddie Brock Peter's friend is a bad idea in my opinion.
Osborns - Peters friend, Spider-Mans enemy.
Lizard - Peters friend, Spider-Mans enemy
Dock Ock - Peters friend (in the movie), Spider-Mans enemy.
Venom - This is one character who loathes Peter Parker and loathes Spider-Man. Keep it that way.
There's no point saving Venom for a fourth movie, in order to do it "right", if they just turn around and change the character anyway.
If they are going to do Venom properly, he should be in 4. If they want to mess with the character, make Eddie a good guy to begin with, then they may aswell put him in 3 and be done with it.
This is the problem with Venom. Too many "fans" just want to see him on screen, because he is the "teh r0xor!" and forget that his storyline is complicated and can't just be re-written and made sense out of.
As we all know, Venom does eventually tame himself. Eddie Brock matures and gets past his loathing for Peter. That to me is a better character development because it shows how Eddie has matured and become powerful emotionally, rather than him "breaking out" of some spell which was making him evil. I'd rather see an ******* Eddie Brock get the symbiote and somehow manage to become more and more humane as a result of Peter's attempts. Eddie Brock as Peters friend who turns on him is just a copy of Harry Osborns character.
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I heard Raimi was almost up to make another Evil Dead movie.
I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him coming back for number 4. Even if he says otherwise now....a couple years down the road he may miss all the comradery that comes with making the Spiderman movies.
Hidden 3D model of Venom
- On disc 2, go to 'The Evolution of Spider-Man', then select the 'Rogue's Gallery'.
- Go to Venom's screen, then press down from the return to menu button to highlight a Spidey sillhouette. Press 'enter'.
Submitted by: Billy James, Martin Pepperell, Steve Wong
Hidden 3D model of Scorpion
- On disc 2, go to 'The Evolution of Spider-Man', then select the 'Rogue's Gallery'.
- Go to Scorpion's screen, then press down from the return to menu button to highlight a Spidey sillhouette. Press 'enter'.
Submitted by: Billy James, Martin Pepperell, Steve Wong
Hidden 3D model of Electro
- On disc 2, go to 'The Evolution of Spider-Man', then select the 'Rogue's Gallery'.
- Go to Electro's screen, then press down from the return to menu button to highlight a Spidey sillhouette. Press 'enter'.
since raimi said there wont be a venom o his direction it can only be scorpion, electro was the first cast for spiderman villain when he was direted by james cameron