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Wand18
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I will also mention Rickson Gracie.. for those who don't know, this man is an udeafeated Legend in the art of Ju Jit Su and Mixed Martial Arts.

But he's main style of fighting is Brazilan Ju Jit Su.

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I will also mention Rickson Gracie.. for those who don't know, this man is an udeafeated Legend in the art of Ju Jit Su and Mixed Martial Arts.

But he's main style of fighting is Brazilan Ju Jit Su.
not true. Rickson has been defeated before by an American Sambo fighter Ron Tripp.


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Chuck Liddell Is by far the best fighter.


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Impossible question, maybe some unknown massive crocodile hunting aborigany is the best, but weŽll never know.

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Chuck Liddell Is by far the best fighter.


FAR from it.


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FAR from it.


Not really


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Not really
elaborate. why do you think he is the best?


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Chuck Liddell Is by far the best fighter.

Chuck belongs nowhere near a list of the best fighters.


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Chuck belongs nowhere near a list of the best fighters.
exactly. He has KO power and good take down defense. He is the LHW UFC Champion but is FAR from best fighter ever.


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It's unfair to name martial artists because the emphasis on martial arts, even the most aggressive, as been to defend yourself.

Combat sports are about attacking until you are victorious in a situation where you are meant to be fighting.

The whole point of real martial arts is that it's not meant to be used.

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It's unfair to name martial artists because the emphasis on martial arts, even the most aggressive, as been to defend yourself.

Combat sports are about attacking until you are victorious in a situation where you are meant to be fighting.

The whole point of real martial arts is that it's not meant to be used.

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I understand Tae Kwon Do teaches discipline and self-defense, but these Brazilian JiuJitsu, and Russian Combat Sambo guyz will go out and not only defend but challenge others to display their superiority (as in the fighting technique they know). I know the Gracie's do it in Rio De Jinero and the Red Devil Team in Russia have a dispute with other teams as well (Like Russian Top Team).

Their are bunch of videos of Royce and his brothers/relatives facing those that give a bad name to their style of jiujitsu. There's a video of Gracie defeating a Russian boxing/sambo champion, a Kung Fu specialist who claimed to be undefeated, and some guy on a beach in Brazil who had no fighting experience but claimed to be strong.

You are right about the fact that it's unfair to name a martial artist, but then who can we name to being the best fighter?


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It's unfair to name martial artists because the emphasis on martial arts, even the most aggressive, as been to defend yourself.

Combat sports are about attacking until you are victorious in a situation where you are meant to be fighting.

The whole point of real martial arts is that it's not meant to be used.

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I disagree. Fighters are martial artists so we don't have any choice but to name them.

That's a very broad view but true. However, it's still a martial arts event. It's just that these martial artists want to see who is the best.

Martial arts were created solely for fighting. Conflict avoidance has always been up to the individual even before martial arts existed.


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it use to be "which style is the best" but now that the sport has evolved so much, fighters learn multiple techniques.

examples:

Fedor Emelianenko: Judo/Sambo
Rodrigo Nogueira: Brazilian Jiujitsu/Boxing
Shogun Rua: Muay Thai/Brazilian JiuJitsu


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It is antisipated that Huo Yuan Jia (1867-1910) was the best fighter of all time.
Surely Bruce Lee was a natural talent, Ip Man (Win Chun grand master) taught Bruce a whole year of pensum in just 3 months.

I doubt any of those special force solders has very good skills compared to any top fighter who have trained his whole life from childhood.

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I think Fedor Emmilelanko is better then Rutten was.


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Re: best fighter ever

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Originally posted by mr.smiley
when i say best fighter i mean in all forms of combat.
boxing,grappling,traditional martial arts,etc.


i think this is a hard question to answer
but i would probably choose between bas rutten and rickson gracie but i can think of even more who i think are realy good
Ken Shamrock.


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Ken Shamrock.
Shamrock in his prime was good, but i wouldn't say he's the best fighter. his brother Frank Shamrock is a much better fighter than Ken.

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I think Fedor Emmilelanko is better then Rutten was.
it's close. both are great fighters, but i'd pick Fedor as well.


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Re: Re: best fighter ever

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Ken Shamrock.

He was good for the time period he fought in, but not the best.

Fedor is pretty much the undisputable "best" at the moment.


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Anymore I doubt think their is an udisputed best in the world.I think their is a consistant best,but that's about as good as it gets.


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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's unfair to name martial artists because the emphasis on martial arts, even the most aggressive, as been to defend yourself.

Combat sports are about attacking until you are victorious in a situation where you are meant to be fighting.

The whole point of real martial arts is that it's not meant to be used.

-AC

Most far eastern military knew how to fight barehanded, so ..not always was martial art used for selfdefense.

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