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debbiejo
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So Neitzche is where you get your philosophy? Curious?

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In reference to the original post: Some of us try to debunk Christianity because we like to try to get people to wake up and see that there is a lot wrong with the religion. Although I personally don't discriminate, I do the same for all religions.


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Who is Nietzche ?


The most overrated philosopher ever. A total nutcase that lost his mind and end up in a mental institution because of his ideas. Master and slave is what he preach BAH! The guy was a bitter old anti-religion philosopher.


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The most overrated philosopher ever. A total nutcase that lost his mind and end up in a mental institution because of his ideas. Master and slave is what he preach BAH! The guy was a bitter old anti-religion philosopher.


Nietzsche was the most infuential modern philosopher. He did not end up in a mental institution because of his ideas, but because of Syphilus - Syphilus infects the brain and causes insanity - he was only insane in the last ten years of his life, YOU IGNORAMOUS! Dom your research before you insult a great mind. There's no place here for f*cking ignorance! How did you become a moderator - it's a shame!


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YOU IGNORAMOUS! Dom your research before you insult a great mind. There's no place here for f*cking ignorance! How did you become a moderator - it's a shame
people is allowed to a personal opinion, not everyone consider philosophers as great minds

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Well, windancer's opinion and insult is completely unsubstantiated - he based it on innacurate information about Nietzsche's insanity. That is unforgivable!


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Well, windancer's opinion and insult is completely unsubstantiated - he based it on innacurate information about Nietzsche's insanity. That is unforgivable!
insult? it aint an insult its an opinion of a man long gone.

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Nietzsche did not end up in a mental institution because of his ideas, but because of Syphilus - Syphilus infects the brain and causes insanity - he was only insane in the last ten years of his life.

It's indeed an insult to someone whose ideas still live on when Windancer said the following: (Look at the above to see that his opinions are completely void of any reason, as he based it on lack of information or ignorance of it.)
"The most overrated philosopher ever. A total nutcase that lost his mind and end up in a mental institution because of his ideas. Master and slave is what he preach BAH! The guy was a bitter old anti-religion philosopher. "


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It's indeed an insult to someone whose ideas still live
it aint an insult at all FN was a very controversial writer that someone "inults" Friedrich is just a thing you have to accept .In the 10 last years of his life he was a nutcase, and that Windancer said he was overrated is a personal opinion which he is entitled too.

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Also, no sensible person can think that a nutcase would be able to influence many intellectuals and philosophers of critical acclaim, who were not nutcases themselves, but sane and greatly acclaimed intellectuals.
Nietzsche influenced the thought of many other writers and philosophers like Thomas Mann, Albert Camus, Jaques Derrida, Michel Faucault, Georg Brandes, Karl Jaspers, Martin Heidegger, Paul Tillich, Henri Bergson, Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, Abraham Maslow, Carl Rogers, Rollo May, Hermann Hesse, André Malraux, André Gide, Rainer Maria Rilke, William Butler Yeats, George Bernard Shaw, Eugene O'Neill, etc.

I think that speaks for itself concerning the 'insanity' of Nietzsche.


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He was insane for the last ten years of his life, BUT before that he produced great ideas. If Winddancer can't see that, he's no philosopher or intellectual.


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Also, no sensible person can think that a nutcase would be able to influence many intellectuals and philosophers of critical acclaim, who were not nutcases themselves
depends on the person who views them

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He was insane for the last ten years of his life, BUT before that he produced great ideas. If Winddancer can't see that, he's no philosopher or intellectual
it is all a matter of opinion whether FN`s ideas were great or not

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His ideas must've been great to have influenced so many acclaimed intellectuals.

Ultimately it does come down to opinion, but those of the opinion that Nietzsche's ideas were not great, simply have senseless opinions and no real intellectual cares about those people's insignificant opinions who ignores someone like Nietzsche.


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Philo follows the religion of Nietzschism.

Personally I don't care for half of his musings. I guess that ceases to make me an intellectual eh philo. I think I can deal with that.


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Isn't it interesting that one man can be criticized for his ideas....and be really defended, but if some try to defend another man, we are criticized.
A man that influenced many people. He called called names by you both. Jesus. I'm allowed to have opinions about great men too.

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Jesus merely taught people the common sense of everyday moral behaviour - he taught it to people who didn't have common sense. Someone with common sense and who can think for himself doesn't need Jesus to tell him what is good and what is bad - it's prety obvious to a human of basic intelligence.


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Ultimately it does come down to opinion, but those of the opinion that Nietzsche's ideas were not great, simply have senseless opinions and no real intellectual cares about those people's insignificant opinions who ignores someone like Nietzsche.

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laughing at Storm for being so ignorant of intellectual matters.


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You' re too funny. Ignorant must be one of your favorite words.


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IGNORANCE IS AN BOTHERSOME FLY TO INTELLECTUALS.


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