Could someone tell me how Doom who has tasted cosmic powers and wielded it, would be defeated by Ororo? Is this some kind of joke? C'mon people stop screwing around with these threads!!! What the hell can Storm throw at Doom? HUH someone please tell me that and don't say lightning c'mon
End of debate. Why does it matter how good she does if she loses anyway? It doesn't. Going down fighting doesn't change the fact that you're going down.
i know that i was askin him what he meant by the Barry Horowitz thing- i'm stupid and didn't get it and demi i wasn't being defensive i was just askin srry if I came off the wrong way
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Hmmrm. Busy day.
You're still comparing apples and oranges, here. You just like making me talk about Magneto, don't you?
I'm not going to turn this into a Magneto vs. Doom debate, but it would have mattered because all Doom did was de-polarize his armor. Magneto could have shifted frequencies like he did when Iron Man did the same thing, forcing Doom to play catch up. He could have subverted Doom's internal electronics, in which case the polarity of the armor becomes meaningless. He could have affected the man THROUGH his armor. But we won't know how much of that he could have or would have done because Doom got teleported away before we could see how Magneto would have responded to Doom's response. So it's a moot point.
Magneto couldn't affect Doom's armor by treating it like a chunk of metal. That's not the same as saying Magneto couldn't affect Doom.
It's not about power levels. It's about the nature of the powers. Doom's forcefield never came into play against Magneto. Doom's forcefield may come into play against Storm. If it doesn't, Storm fries his circuits because...they're circuits. If it does, Storm still fries his circuits, she just does it through the forcefield. The amount of level of power has nothing to do with the very basic notion that electricity fries circuits.
heh, well, if we're coming down to a test of agility in dodging respective attacks, I'd go with an athletic woman over a middle-aged dude in a suit of armor any day.
Yeah, I can agree with that. So if we're being realistic, then Storm wouldn't fight Doom by herself because X-men never fight alone. BUT, we've been tasked to come up with scenarios in which Storm would fight Doom. With prep and on his ground, yes, Doom would win. With prep and on any ground, Doom would win. BUT, the rules state that it's on neutral ground and without prep, and I've named a scenario in which Storm would win based upon previous showings of her power. Nothing wrong with that.
So what are you saying? That people should only post fights that can realistically happen? That we shouldn't post Doom fights because Doom only uses Doombots? C'mon, now.
How about the Beyonder returns and instantly teleports Doom and Storm to a remote location and says, "FIGHT! NOW! OR EARTH IS DESTROYED!".
There you have it. Random Doom encounter.
But which does seem likely to me. Hence the disagreement. Is there something special about Doom's forcefield that neutralizes internal environmental changes? Something in his forcefield that establishes its own unalterable eco-system?
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Lightning.
Dammit!
ok, how about changing the air pressure from inside Doom's armor, causes his lungs to collapse. Or changing the temperature inside the forcefield, making it so cold that he'd have to drop it. I could do this for awhile....
Yes, yes, Doom has done this and that. But what you're missing is, he's done this through his inventions. He's prepared and inventing things to give him the means of tasting cosmic power and universal power and all that. That has nothing to do with his ability to do battle in a neutral location with no prep (board rules!)
I don't get it.
I said that Storm could affect Doom through his forcefield. What that has to do with boxing is beyond me. But if you'd like to elaborate, I won't stop you.
At the risk of turning this into Magneto/Doom, I haven't attended to your points about it. We can do that another time if you wish.
"If it doesn't, Storm fries his circuits because...they're circuits. If it does, Storm still fries his circuits, she just does it through the forcefield. The amount of level of power has nothing to do with the very basic notion that electricity fries circuits."
Well lets go with the more likely chance that he will use his forcefield, why are you assuming he's not gonna take her out before she can affect his circuitry? What makes you think that in Doom's suit, any level of electricity is going to affect it? Do you believe Doom built it and forgot to make it invulnerable to electricity?
"heh, well, if we're coming down to a test of agility in dodging respective attacks, I'd go with an athletic woman over a middle-aged dude in a suit of armor any day."
The only widespread attack Storm has is wind. Doom could and probably would just crack out an attack that will drench the area. Doesn't matter how athletic she is. That's the thing with Doom. He doesn't be precise where he doesn't needs to be. Just over does it, gets all bases covered.
"BUT, the rules state that it's on neutral ground and without prep, and I've named a scenario in which Storm would win based upon previous showings of her power. Nothing wrong with that."
What "RULES"? No offence but what's the point of having rules in a fantasy battle? Some of Marvel's characters, Doom for one, aren't applicable to rules. Those rules are just silly. There are characters who live off prep. What about them? Are they gonna be subject to loss on every battle as a result of these "rules"? Come on.
Either way, going by your quote, it's 2-1 Doom.
"How about the Beyonder returns and instantly teleports Doom and Storm to a remote location and says, "FIGHT! NOW! OR EARTH IS DESTROYED!".
There you have it. Random Doom encounter."
He didn't do that in this fight. Nor did that happen, or would it.
You could also use that random Doom encounter when he popped out to collect the mail and Storm was walking her dog. Or when Doom stepped out for a game of tennis and Storm happened to be mowing his lawn and decided to fight.
Psst, random Doom encounters don't really happen do they?
"Is there something special about Doom's forcefield that neutralizes internal environmental changes? Something in his forcefield that establishes its own unalterable eco-system?"
Is there something in Storm's face that is created to stop an energy bolt going through it? Coz he could do that just as fast.
ok then that clears things up but still storm can make it below zero in his shield in a matter of seconds. She has frozen a lot of people including omega red and a sentinal prime or somethin nlike that in a matter of seconds
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