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Endless Mike
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Um, he lost his powers for a year after he flew through Rao.

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...He's got a point...

He would have a point if he wasn't retarded...

Superman ISN'T unbeatable. The posters very first premise is false, therefore his argument is rendered invalid.

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If Superman can hit Base Goku he stand as chance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNgkPhy00jw
watch this fight, even thier missed punches cause huge boulders to crumble. The reason Goku doesnt damage windows is becase he doesnt fight in cities. He is a responsible hero who doesnt want to risk lifes.

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That works.... unless the enemy is attacking the city specifically.

BTW Superman fights faster than light. DBZ characters aren't even 1% lightspeed. When Goku is wasting his time charging up his attacks, Superman would KO him in one hit.

EDIT: Oh, BTW, the "boulders breaking" was A. A filler scene. B. Done with ki, not physical shockwaves. C. Still far less impressive than stuff Superman was doing 15 years ago (including your example of breaking all of the windows in a city by the shockwave of one punch, or the shockwaves from his fight with Doomsday creating earthquakes that could be felt hundreds of miles away).

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Sep 6th, 2007 07:27 PM

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The guy in my sig and avy would kill Supes with ease, so I'm happy. smile

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http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...uvvegetasf1.gif

Superman never does this damage when he fights. If Goku and vegeta were fighting in Metropolis it would be destroyed and everyone there would die.

Sep 6th, 2007 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
That works.... unless the enemy is attacking the city specifically.

BTW Superman fights faster than light. DBZ characters aren't even 1% lightspeed. When Goku is wasting his time charging up his attacks, Superman would KO him in one hit.

EDIT: Oh, BTW, the "boulders breaking" was A. A filler scene. B. Done with ki, not physical shockwaves. C. Still far less impressive than stuff Superman was doing 15 years ago (including your example of breaking all of the windows in a city by the shockwave of one punch, or the shockwaves from his fight with Doomsday creating earthquakes that could be felt hundreds of miles away).

Or the Clash between two supermen that was breaking down dimensions...

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http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?...uvvegetasf1.gif

Superman never does this damage when he fights. If Goku and vegeta were fighting in Metropolis it would be destroyed and everyone there would die.

Only if they fired a ki blast, since they can't do that much damage with just physical force. Should I point out that when Goku and Gohan fought Cell, the reporter and Mr. Satan (who were only a few hundred meters away the whole time) were just fine? Same thing applies when Goku and Vegeta fought Kid Buu.

Meanwhile Superman can punch a moon in half.

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Or the Clash between two supermen that was breaking down dimensions...

I was mentioning stuff from the first Doomsday fight specifically

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I was mentioning stuff from the first Doomsday fight specifically

I realize, but if we wanna be impressive, let's be impressive.

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Only if they fired a ki blast, since they can't do that much damage with just physical force. Should I point out that when Goku and Gohan fought Cell, the reporter and Mr. Satan (who were only a few hundred meters away the whole time) were just fine? Same thing applies when Goku and Vegeta fought Kid Buu.

Meanwhile Superman can punch a moon in half.

Did you read the scan? Goku and Vegeta clashed and caused a sonic boom in that scan that was breaking parts of mountains off, they're not as strong as Supes but come on. And the guy in my sig and avy still easily thrashes Supes.

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Yeh Endlesslies look at the scan before you judge. Supes could only beat base Goku if he managed to hit him, and i doubt that

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Did you read the scan? Goku and Vegeta clashed and caused a sonic boom in that scan that was breaking parts of mountains off, they're not as strong as Supes but come on. And the guy in my sig and avy still easily thrashes Supes.

That was from their ki powering up.

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That was from their ki powering up.

...No it wasn't. It was from their elbow clash, and all their attacks use Ki. And Sarutobi, Supes is faster than Goku. sad

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No, they were standing there and releasing their ki which created tremors and shook the landscape. It's very similar to many other scenes where the same thing happens.

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No, they were standing there and releasing their ki which created tremors and shook the landscape. It's very similar to many other scenes where the same thing happens.

Np, it was their clash. They only have an aura because they are using alot of power.

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It was their ki. This is consistent with every other scene in the manga where ki flaring up causes tremors and rocks to float and crumble.

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It was also their clash, their ki is what made them powerful enough to cause that powerful clash.

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Endless Mike
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They were basically just grappling with each other, and powering up their ki to try to overcome each other, their ki was creating tremors as a side effect.

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