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Quit calling it a 'she' its a 'IT'

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I don't know if this is the right address to send in comments or opinions. It was the only e-mail address I came across. Granted, I only looked for 5 minutes, but was mostly looking for "contact me" or "e-mail me" things. Anyway, I just wanna say that I saw Terminator 3. The movie was great, but the villian was rather disappointing. T-X was quite possibly the weakest of the T models. Coincidentally it was a female. Isn't that ironic? The T-X just didn't create that sense of "OH NO!! IT"S HERE!!" for me. I was more like "Oh okay she just got run over by a crane....and she's back...wow..." To me the T-1000 in T2 was a much stronger adversary, and in my opinion the strongest of the T models. The T-X had more abilites, cooler weapons, was faster and in all ways superior to any of the previous Terminators. With one exception. She had an internal skeleton with powercells, which when broken down, like the T-100's made her harmless. My arguement is that the T-1000 in T2 was a prototype, and therefore somehow incomplete. Yet, it was insanely powerful. Completely made of liquid metal so there was no inner body that could be destroyed, hence no weakness to exploit. The only way it was destroyed was by melting it in liquid steel. T-X was a field tested model and had been used in battle already. They simply grabbed one of many existing T-X's and whipped her back in time. T-X had a liquid metal make up on the outside, she could morph into people she had killed just like the T-1000 could, but the difference is that T-1000 had no inner body, it was completely liquid metal and could re-form from any damage. This made the T-1000 a much bigger threat. T-X vs. T-1000. T-X: Liquid Metal over inner skeleton housing power cores. Weapons: Missile Launchers, Flame Thrower, Pulse Beam Cannon Abilites: Morphing into people she'd killed, control over other machines. T-1000 Liquid Metal (Proto-type) Weapons: Knives, swords, hooks, other stabbing weapons Abilities: Morphing into anything it had sampled by contact (floors, puddles, people) T-X, weapons and ability wise is superior and the ability to control other machines was a grand advantage, but she could only control machines she had re programmed. (cars, trucks, and even the T-101). However, the liquid metal make up of T-1000 would ensure that she couldn't re program him. She had to terminate the T-101 before she could re program it and re boot it. There is no way the T-X could destroy the T-1000. Unless of course she conveniently found a steel mill and decided to give him a little dip in the pool of liquid metal. She could shoot him, hit him, chop him, burn him, shock him, crush him and utterly pulverise him, and he'd just keep coming back. Eventually she'd sustain enough damage to her inner skeleton to where she be dust. Now, true T3 is under a new director and I'm not sure as to whether this guy half assed put this story together, or if it was already written and he just got the okay from Cameron or not. But in my opinion, T-X was weak. Movie was good. Villian was horrible. Massively weak. All of her fights against the T-101, the T-101 man handled her. T-101 against the T-1000. 1000 owned him over and over again. I think the series officially ended with 2. That's what I'm gonna say. I don't know if it was originally meant for this series to go past that or not. The story elements in here were a little sketchy. Supposedly Skynet isn't a central computer according to the T3 story. Yet, in T2 the creator of Skynet, Miles Dyson was working on a learning computer which was the infant stages of Skynet and the T series' internal CPU's. Now I don't know where this fits in. Supposedly Skynet already existed at the time the T2 events took place and the military had been secretly making a machine army for their military. That part I could swallow, but I'd have to go back to Dyson. If this was true, then where the hell does this guy fit in. Why was he a major element in Skynet's developement if Skynet already existed. Supposedly Skynet is software. Uhhh...hello...Let's see here. In T2, Skynet is reputed to be a central computer that will run the military. There are refrences when Dyson is working on his computer and his wife tries to pull him away. He says "Imagine a jet air-liner with a pilot that never gets tired, never makes mistakes, never shows up to work with a hangover......Meet the pilot." and they both look at the CPU sitting on his desk. Also, in T2 they say that when Skynet becomes self aware, in a panic they try to pull the plug and Skynet fights back by launching missiles at Russia counting on the counter attack to eliminate it's enemies. However, at the end of T3, Skynet launches it's missiles at the U.S itself. Skynet also wasn't given a long time to learn. In T3 Skynet was initiated in response to a global computer virus whiping out all communications which turned out to be an act of Skynet all along. Apparently Judgement Day wasn't prevented in T2, just prolonged. Judgement Day didn't happen in 1997 like it was supposed to. So the whole "missiles launched at Russia" thing could have changed in that amount of time. Skynet probably decided to whipe out the middle man and just nix the people over here itself. All in all, I think T3 was a good movie, but some of the story elements definitely suffered. I left the theatre with a few question marks floating over my head. But that's my run down of my thoughts on T3. Perhaps you could post this on your site and I could see how my opinions stack up with others. But I stick by my opinion about the T-X. She sucked big time. 100% weak. T-1000 would have owned her so bad. It was cool seeing Arnold in it, which makes me want to beleive it's an official part of the Story line. But I say, screw the T-100's and grab a T-1000 and throw him in there. Although I'd be contradicting myself. If the T-X couldn't re program a T-1000, I suppose a human couldn't either.

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Dude, the grenade laucher had him messed up. They ar both using the same nano tech only differently. Basically she blows him with the plasma canon and then reprograms him. Game Over.


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WOW that's a 1075 word essay! LOL! Man you've been doing a lotta thinking haven't you, Jed? hehe!

I agree, T-X was pretty weak, and how she died in the end was kinda like "we don't have much time left, nor do we wanna extend the movie, let's jus get her crushed by a helicopter and then have Arnie shove a fuel cell down her throat!"

T-1000 was an awesome villian in T2. I liked that eeriness, suspense and fear he radiated whenever he stepped into the scene. Go Robert Patrick! big grin


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Imagine how well the T-X would be if Cameron was at the helm.


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I think part of the problem is that this TX was just... too hot !

It kinda took our attention away from being afraid of her, instead we would admire her, haha.


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I think part of the problem is that this TX was just... too hot !

It kinda took our attention away from being afraid of her, instead we would admire her, haha.


True, lol. It's like "Should I run away from her, fearing for my life or ask for her number?"


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Well she has a phone.


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Dude.

Plasma is hotter than molten steel. The T-X would destroy the T-1000 with one shot. The only thing that can stand up to plasma is the T-850's plot armor.

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Maybe the T-X is more advanced but the T-1000 wins in terms of freakiness!

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lol, yeah, seeing a naked guy running around stealing police uniforms at the beginning of a movie will send chills down anyone's spine.

On the other hand, seeing a naked hot chick will make any guy think "hmmm, where's the pause button?".


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how exactly would the T-1000 even hurt the T-X i mean would it get insider her and screw up her insides, if there as strong as her outsides then he's totally screwed.

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Just had a thought - Could the T-1000 latch on to the T-X?


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how exactly would the T-1000 even hurt the T-X i mean would it get insider her and screw up her insides, if there as strong as her outsides then he's totally screwed.
How you know he can't do that? T-1000 wins.

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Remember guys that T-1000 is prototype ant it just only one. T-X is built to destroy other Termiantor(s) ,but i think those models like T-800 or T-600. Because T-1000 was dead. I think T-1000 would own T-X in batle.

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the whole t850 saying is stupid,cause in t4 arnies model was a t800 and looked more advanced than what arnold did in t3 and as far as who would win again T-1000 AND Tx the t-1000 hands down the tx has an endoskeleton the t-1000 could damage plus you couldnt trap a t-1000 underneath a helecopter. if the tx hits the t-1000 with plasma weapon,he'll just reform over and voer again.

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