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Jedi and Sith VS Street Level Heroes

Darth Tyranus a.k.a. Count Dooku
Darth Maul

Mace Windu
Obi Wan Kenobi (not old)

They'll team up against:

Captain America
Wolverine
Daredevil
Black Panther
Batman
Deathstroke
Blade
Hawkeye
Green Arrow

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Re: Jedi and Sith VS Street Level Heroes

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Darth Tyranus a.k.a. Count Dooku
Darth Maul

Mace Windu
Obi Wan Kenobi (not old)

They'll team up against:

Captain America
Wolverine
Daredevil
Black Panther
Batman
Deathstroke
Blade
Hawkeye
Green Arrow

Four Star Wars characters against NINE Marvel/DC characters ?

Lol, I hope that the Force is real strong in the SW-dudes, because they are going to need it.


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It's not that simple. The Jedi and Sith are master swordsmen and martial artist (Jedi/Sith arts) with lightsabers that can cut through damn near anything, have telekinesis, extra sensory awareness, limited telepathy that includes empathy and mind control, super speed and agility, and Dooku can emit force lightning.


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Fact remains that the SW-characters are outnumbered. When fighting nine Marvel/DC-characters, they need something more than a sharp knife and - at best - low level telepathy/telekinesis.


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Not really, considering these guys can kill any of their opponents in one swipe, and with their force TK, they can knock back half the opponents while they deal with the rest.


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the telepathy isn't that low level..... it can be used from one solar system to another and the telekinesis can move any objects of any size, they can also use their power to enhance their own speed, strength and agility. the force let's them see slightly into the future during fights to know where an opponent is going to strike..... hence the constant laser blocking....... Vader even stopped Han's blaster fire with his hand in Cloud City (i know he wasn't mentioned in this fight but if he can do it others can too)


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it can be used from one solar system to another and the telekinesis can move any objects of any size

Yeah, if you wait half an hour wink .
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they can also use their power to enhance their own speed, strength and agility.

Never saw that much of it in the movies. All the Jedis and Siths I saw were okay-fighters, some of them even really good. But nothing more.
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the force let's them see slightly into the future during fights to know where an opponent is going to strike..... hence the constant laser blocking...

Yeah, laser blocking from the most stupid soldiers ever (stormtroopers), they couldn't hit an elephant while riding one.
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Vader even stopped Han's blaster fire with his hand in Cloud City (i know he wasn't mentioned in this fight but if he can do it others can too)

I disagree. First of all, it's not because Vader can do that, that all other Jedis or Siths can do the same thing. Second, wasn't Vader wearing an armored glove ?


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Yeah, if you wait half an hour wink .
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it was used fairly quickly against the droids at the start of "Episode 1" only took as long as a hand gesture

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Never saw that much of it in the movies. All the Jedis and Siths I saw were okay-fighters, some of them even really good. But nothing more.
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Luke performed a leap of at least 10-15 feet from a standing position while fighting vader in cloud city, Obi Wan performed similar feats during the long fight scene in Episode 1 as did Darth Maul

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Yeah, laser blocking from the most stupid soldiers ever (stormtroopers), they couldn't hit an elephant while riding one.
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laser blocking worked against Bobba Fett and he is rated as one of the most dangerous guys in the SW universe, also worked against the battle droids in more recent films.... not to mention when Qui Gon grabbed Jar Jar's tongue at the dinner table..... then explained all this

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I disagree. First of all, it's not because Vader can do that, that all other Jedis or Siths can do the same thing. Second, wasn't Vader wearing an armored glove ? [/B]


actually Vaders entire arm is prosthetic but a blaster would still have done it serious damage if not for force reinforcement........ never managed to save his hand in "Return of The Jedi" though


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Have you ever read a SW comic? No? Exactly.


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yes i have....... i've also read a few of the books, what's your point?


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Movie Jedi are nothing compared to Comic Street Levels, Comic Jedi are usually below the average Comic Street level (althouth their are a few high end showings in the earlier comics) and EU Jedi are well above Street Levels.

If this is movie Jedi then I wouldn't be at all surprised if DS took them all out on his own.


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EU?......the European Union has Jedi Knights working for them now???
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There are some impressive displays in the books....... one nice trick is when Luke throws his lightsaber, then, using the force makes it start spinning and flies it around a room full of assassins killing them all...... a bit like Blade does with his rounded throwing blade in the film....... but better as he can control the flight path


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Four master jedi can take out the 9 lowely superhero's listed.


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OK>.. Every Jedi You Can Think Of Can Block Lasers... Most Of THese Guys Are Packing Guns... Lightsaber Melt Bullets... Deathstroke Be The Last Street Level Standing... Maul Death Chokes All Of Them By Himself... Unless Punisher An Acrobat... Even Wolvie Fodder To Them... JEDI KNIGHTS BITCHES!!!!!!!!

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JEDI AND SITH wins. All Dooku has to do is blast them all with the Sith lightning and the others get popcorn and enjoy the show.


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Where am I? confused

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I forgot to put in some rules.
The Jedi and Sith cannot use all their Force Powers except for the Force Choke.
Considering the Marvel Team members, I see the fight going in this way:
Darth Maul will be faced by Wolverine and Blade, meanwhile Mace Windu will fight against Captain America, Batman and Black Panther (great team).
Count Dooku and Deathstroke as the oldest members of this royal rumble must face each other, and I feel free to give a chance to Deathstroke through giving him a Lightsaber instead of his sword, that wouldn't stand a chance against a Lightsaber.
GA, Hawkeye and Daredevil will face the Obi Wan from Episode II.
Now, Captain America with the aid of BP and Bat can manage at last to contain Windu, but if the saber can cut or damage his shield, he'll doomed.BP on the other hand can keep him busy with his energy daggers, that will be blocked or deflected, but this will grant Batman the chance to hit with a surprise attack Mace, and maybe, disarm him from his saber, putting the Jedi Master in a fist to fist fight.Yes, certainly he'll use his force push to shatter them around the room, but they have serious chances.
Darth Maul VS Wolverine and Blade
Oh yeah.That's a great fight.Both have the "animal" attitude, both are deadly, both are damn fast.Now, if the adamantium can withstand with a LS, Logan can fight with Maul but he must pay attention to his flesh, cause his body isn't unbreakable like his bones.It means he can block Maul's slices and manage to stab him to death.On the other hand, Maul has killed a Jedi Master, and die cause he was too arrogant and Obi Wan catch him a lack of attention.So, if he doesn't commits cocky actions like in Episode I, he can success in killing Logan.Considering both fighters acts like two predators, it will take a long time before one of the two goes down.But there's also Blade.So i give him a Lightsaber too.Cause titanium wouldn't stand a chance against a LS.He ang Logan teaming up, means troubles for Maul, not so much.
Considering Logan starts to go Berserker mode when someone is too much for him, Maul will carpe diem and stab him to death.Cause with his precog abilities, seeing what's going to do this raging clawed guy isn't hard.Blade on the other hand, will be trying to slash Maul with his new weapon, Blade has over double of the strenght of Logan, and his faster than him, but Maul has nearly beat down 2Jedi, and one of them was a Master Jedi, so I wouldn't be surprised seeing Logan and Blade lying on the floor.
Count Dooku VS Deathstroke.
That's the Battle Royal of this thread.
Two old and experienced fighters, skilled, powerful, very bastard inside.
Deathstroke has on his side long battle experience and healing abilities, Dooku on the other hand, was one of the strongest Jedi swordsman, he was on par with Yoda.But DS has great skill too, with a Lightsaber in his hands, I wouldn't be surprised seeing him killing Dooku, until the Count decide to blast him with lighting and make the rooftop collapsing on him with his telekinesis.
Obi Wan Kenobi VS Daredevil, Hawkeye and GA.
Daredevil's billy club is made of adamantium, so he can use it against Obi Wan with more success than his classical weapon.
Hawkeye and GA will be shooting at OW all their arrows, just to seeing them being deflected, blocked or destroyed, but Daredevil's club bouncing around OW may block him or slow him, and GA and HE can place a good shot and kill him.
Naaaa.This fight goes to OW, I really thinks they don't stand a serious chance.

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Count Dooku knocked out Anakin with force lightning in EPII and Obi Wan with a force push in EPIII so he could probably defeat some of these guys the same way.

Deathstroke could possibly (although I doubt it) hold his own against a jedi if he had a lightsaber because of his 90 percent brain capacity if he was against Obi Wan, but he wouldn't last long against any of the others.

Hawkeye and Green Arrow wouldn't last very long. Jedi and Sith would catch their arrows in midair and/or force push them back. The trick arrows wouldn't catch them by surprise because of their precognition.

They would force grab any weapons the heroes have. This would mean that they could take Cap's shield, Green Arrow and Hawkeye's Bows and arrows, Daredevil's nightstick, and others. Without them, their physical abilities just don't match up to that of a Jedi/Sith.


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Oh for Christ's sake! Jedi physically superior to Marvel Street Levels? You really pulled that out of your ass didn't you?

The Jedi that exist in the wet dreams of Star Wars fan boys are so far from resembling their movie counterparts that it can only be described as sad.


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