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Grimm22
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Originally posted by who?-kid
That's not the point.

CA = normal durability (more or less). Spider-Man can tear him in ten pieces using only half of his strength. With ease.


Tear him to pieces?!? What the f**k?


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That's not the point.

CA = normal durability (more or less). Spider-Man can tear him in ten pieces using only half of his strength. With ease.


Incorrect. Spiderman MIGHT be able to win... but words like "Tear him to Pieces" and "With Ease" and "Using Half Strength" are not the most intelligent words to use unless it's accompanied by "With the help of Silver Surfer"


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Tear him to pieces?!? What the f**k?

Why not ? Blood lust is on. Forum rules.

Of course Spider-Man won't do such a thing, blood lust or no blood lust, but again, it's well within his abilities.


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Originally posted by who?-kid
That's not the point.

CA = normal durability (more or less). Spider-Man can tear him in ten pieces using only half of his strength. With ease.


then why did you bring it up?

seriously.. a bullet will kill spiderman pretty much as easily as it would cap.... so who gives a shit?


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Originally posted by who?-kid
Why not ? Blood lust is on. Forum rules.

Of course Spider-Man won't do such a thing, blood lust or no blood lust, but again, it's well within his abilities.


forum rules are contradictive... they also say CIS isn't exemt from these matches and we know spiderman doesn't kill.


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Incorrect. Spiderman MIGHT be able to win... but words like "Tear him to Pieces" and "With Ease" and "Using Half Strength" are not the most intelligent words to use unless it's accompanied by "With the help of Silver Surfer"

That didn't make much sense...


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Originally posted by jinzin
then why did you bring it up?

seriously.. a bullet will kill spiderman pretty much as easily as it would cap.... so who gives a shit?

(starts to cry...)

I was only pointing out that CA - despite other peoples beliefs - has NO special durability and that it is of course well in Spider-Man abilities to knock off his head with one punch.

There. Admit it, it wasn't that difficult to understand, was it ?


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Ca has no special durability with the exception of peak human durability which has constantly proven to be near meta human levels...
in that same regard spiderman has no special durability toawards bullets either with again, the exception of his new iron spidey suit... it was a bad example... plain and simple.

can spiderman knock his head off.. well yeah if cap stodd there fixed into position without a way to shift his weight, roll with the punch, etc etc... put in a fight, no it's not that easy... spiderman couldn't do that sin eater, he couldn't do it to charlemagne, he couldn't do it to macendale... all he did was send them flying back....


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Cap got the fighting skills and the experience, Spidey got the reflexes, strenght...In weapons Captain America is better with the shield, Spidey only got web-shooters which he uses great though...They both have big agility this would a cool fight....Coz I like SpiderMan better I say Spidey can win this....


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seriously.. a bullet will kill spiderman pretty much as easily as it would cap.... so who gives a shit?
I thought I should address this here: Spider-Man has superhuman durability. His skeleton, outer and internal organs are better fortified than Captain America's (not to mention he can recover/heal at least twice as fast). I'm not saying Spidey is bullet proof, but he can take a bullet wound much better than Cap can.

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Oh I don't think it will be a problem for the good Cap to hit Spider-Man, not because he's that fast, just because he's a brilliant fighter.

The big problem is:

1. Is Captain America strong enough to knock down Spider-Man ? The answer is yes, but he needs A LOT of punching and kicking, and I just don't see that happening.

2. Can Captain America take a full hit of Spider-Man ? Of course not.

Captain can definitely kick Spider-Mans butt, but not in a straight fight.


See, I love Cap. He's one of my favorite characters, and I can respect the honor an manner he conducts himself under battle, but in a fight like this Cap is almost too honorable. He'd of course try to duke it out with Spiderman instead of pulling something out of Batman's book and throwing gas around and all sorts of stuff to try and disrupt Spiderman.

Cap could do it, but he needs to be creative. He won't win in a fight no matter how many times he hit Spidey. He may be brilliant enough to tag him a few times, but it will inflict minimal damage, and Spiderman hits him once in the face and takes his head off. If Cap is going to win, he'll have to "cheat" like Batman would, and that's just not something that he does. Spidey wins..........


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Originally posted by Acrosurge
I thought I should address this here: Spider-Man has superhuman durability. His skeleton, outer and internal organs are better fortified than Captain America's (not to mention he can recover/heal at least twice as fast). I'm not saying Spidey is bullet proof, but he can take a bullet wound much better than Cap can.


he can take a bullet better? What the f**k? they both die... what's the difference?

spiderman has more durability to take more consistant superhuamn blunt punishment.. but not peircing...


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I thought I should address this here: Spider-Man has superhuman durability. His skeleton, outer and internal organs are better fortified than Captain America's (not to mention he can recover/heal at least twice as fast). I'm not saying Spidey is bullet proof, but he can take a bullet wound much better than Cap can.


Yes, but also keep in mind that Spiderman can dodge bullets from even a maching gun, not because of his speed, but because of his clair voyant spider-sense. He'll know where the bullets are coming and he moves. It's happened a million times.


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See, I love Cap. He's one of my favorite characters, and I can respect the honor an manner he conducts himself under battle, but in a fight like this Cap is almost too honorable. He'd of course try to duke it out with Spiderman instead of pulling something out of Batman's book and throwing gas around and all sorts of stuff to try and disrupt Spiderman.

Cap could do it, but he needs to be creative. He won't win in a fight no matter how many times he hit Spidey. He may be brilliant enough to tag him a few times, but it will inflict minimal damage, and Spiderman hits him once in the face and takes his head off. If Cap is going to win, he'll have to "cheat" like Batman would, and that's just not something that he does. Spidey wins..........


daredevil can KO spidey in 12 punches..

captain can take out rhino with fists alone...

I'll let you do the math...


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Yes, but also keep in mind that Spiderman can dodge bullets from even a maching gun, not because of his speed, but because of his clair voyant spider-sense. He'll know where the bullets are coming and he moves. It's happened a million times.


the same way almost all street level guys dodge machine gun fire?


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the same way almost all street level guys dodge machine gun fire?


No because he can dodge them every time. A street level guy can only pray that he's making the right move. Spider-Man's Spider-Sense is also directional, so he knows where the shots are coming before they're shot.

However wierd it may sound, I do think Cap could still hit him, simply becuause he's so brilliant. He could distract him and overload the Spider-Sense, and certainly could hit him a few times. I believe in Cap, but it boils down to the fact that I think he'd straight up try to duke it out with Spidey and he wouldn't be able to do half the damage that in 10 hits that Spidey could do in one.......

Cap has the sheild and maybe he could pull off a win, but I don't think that the sheild could stop every single punch in 6 or 7 flurries from Spider-Man. I'll say that Cap gets it 4/10, but Spidey still takes it, especially if he fights as smart as we all have seen him do at some times........


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he can take a bullet better? What the f**k? they both die... what's the difference?

spiderman has more durability to take more consistant superhuamn blunt punishment.. but not peircing...
...but once the piercing is done, the internal damage done would affect Captain America more, simply because his internal organs lack Spider-Man's arachnid durability, especially since his upgrade.

In other words, Spidey is more likely to survive a bullet wound near the heart.

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...but once the piercing is done, the internal damage done would affect Captain America more, simply because his internal organs lack Spider-Man's arachnid durability, especially since his upgrade.

In other words, Spidey is more likely to survive a bullet wound near the heart.


Yes. You are 100% correct!!! Unless it's in his brain or directly in his heart or something...


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No because he can dodge them every time. A street level guy can only pray that he's making the right move. Spider-Man's Spider-Sense is also directional, so he knows where the shots are coming before they're shot.

However wierd it may sound, I do think Cap could still hit him, simply becuause he's so brilliant. He could distract him and overload the Spider-Sense, and certainly could hit him a few times. I believe in Cap, but it boils down to the fact that I think he'd straight up try to duke it out with Spidey and he wouldn't be able to do half the damage that in 10 hits that Spidey could do in one.......

Cap has the sheild and maybe he could pull off a win, but I don't think that the sheild could stop every single punch in 6 or 7 flurries from Spider-Man. I'll say that Cap gets it 4/10, but Spidey still takes it, especially if he fights as smart as we all have seen him do at some times........


prey the bullets don't hit them? What the f**k?

what street levels you been readin?


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