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Originally posted by h1a8
This post is ridiculous. Marvel says that Spider-man's spidersense jerks him outer of danger (even before the attack happens) without his knowledge. He is able to lift over 50 tons (his actual max strength goes into unchartered territory) when under stress. He can move at speeds as fast as sound under stress (becoming a blur, invisible, or multiples of himself). He can endure tremendous amounts of concussive force (bombs, hits by Hulk, etc.). Technically, there is zero way for Cap to hit Spidey. Captain America has no defense (he has only peak human reflexes). It is a supreme fallacy to say that since Cap has great fighting ability he can win. This is utter nonsense.

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Originally posted by manjaro
oh and his webs dont stick to vibranium cuz it vibrates at millions of ______per sec.(whatever the designated measurer is) octaves i think?or maybe ocillates(i may have made that on up)according to that new villain with the vibranium suit

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Originally posted by who?-kid
What has vibranium to do with this fight ?.

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Originally posted by Linkalicious
It's posts like the 2 above Scoobles that makes cement my stance on Cap taking Spidey. Who-Kid, Scooble, and Straw make me teeder-totter between the two.

Captain America is a much, much better hand to hand fighter than Spiderman. Spiderman has enough durability to take almost anything Captain America can throw at him. The only acception would be a direct blow with his shield to the back of the neck, head, or a shot to the temple

Spiderman has never proven himself able to lift 50 tons. He has, on numerous occasions, lifted more than 10 tons, but that is because marvel statistics state he can "press" 10 tons. He is able to support or squat significantly more because it's a fact....legs are stronger than arms.

One big factor I don't think people have really argued about that I feel needs attention.....will Spidey's web stick to the surface of Cap's shield?


If it does, then Spidey can yank the shield right out of his hands. If it doesn't, I'm quite sure Cap is fully capable of blocking almost any web based attack.

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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I do agree with you when you say that spiderman can beat Capt. America. But I dont think this post is ridiculous at all. This battle can actually can be a worthy enough fight to witness.

When you wrote "Marvel says that Spider-man's spidersense jerks him outer of danger" I thought well how can that be. Spiderman jerks himself out of danger with the help of his spideysense. It doesn't control his actions. It act as an aid/warning or red-flag not as a bodily reflex.

Spiderman can only lift 10 tons not 50. Look it up.

And when you wrote "Technically, there is zero way for Cap to hit Spidey. Captain America has no defense" I thought your were wrong there too. First of all, Capt. is not a lousy fighter as he has been in several major wars and has come out decorated. He's had more training and experience in the art of fighting/war than Spiderman has. And his shield is just one of many defences he can use as powerful as it is. I've seen that shield protect Capt. in ways i've never seen any force field in Marvel do.

Although, again, I still think Spiderman can win I dont think pitting Capt. up against the web crawler is nonsense. Its far from it. Or maybe you either hate Capt. America or love Spiderman extremely because you write with the attitude of a Spidey fanboy. You look at spiderman as a demigod while I look at him as a worthy super. Your understanding and underestimation of Capt. America and ablilties show your lack of knowledge. Spiderman still wins though lol.

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Originally posted by h1a8
You make decent points. But the truth is Spidey can potential lift hundreds of tons.

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Originally posted by h1a8
You sure don't know much comic book history to say that spiderman has never proven to lift 50 tons. A more accurate estimate would be he can lift hundreds of tons. He has lifted incredible massive objects such as multistory buildings before under tremendous emotional stress. This information didn't come from my head but one of Marvel encyclopedias.

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Originally posted by h1a8
You make decent points. But the truth is Spidey can potential lift hundreds of tons. He has lifted extremely massive objects such as multistory buildings while under intense emotional stress. It doesn't matter how good of a fighter Cap is. To exaggerate my point imagine Cap fighting Doomsday. Just because Cap gets killed by Doomsday doesn't mean he is a lousy fighter. There are limits to what fighting ability can take you. It is Impossible to to react to something beyond human peak ability. How can Cap defend against any of Spidey's physical attacks. Spidey moves too irregularly and too fast (a blur or invisible).There is no way for Spidey to get hit as well as there is no way for Cap to not get hit. Any disagreement is not logical.

Most people who say that Cap will win is using the implication that superior fighting abilility can cause one to defend against something that is too fast for his/her reflexes. Impossible!