The IW force fields can be shutted down from her mental fatigue, now both Magneto and GL had plenty of ways to cause her huge mental fatigue:
Enhancing their physical strenght into the Class 100 Strenght level, punching the field around her until she collapse on the ground for the feedback then kill her.
Magneto can use light to pass through the field, and so can GL.
Magneto can jam her brain impulses.
Magneto can surround her face in a metal cage and then aument the pressure until her face is a jam of flesh and bones into a metal box.
Just to name a few chances
Also, someone here needs to read more about John Stewart, the guy was able to create a huge starship even equipped with small ships to use in case of emergency, and it takes a lot of will power, experience and mastery over the GL power to do it.
He can also do much of the Thing Maggy can do, but the battle will be tough anyway.
Hal Jordan will be tough too.Hal in bloodlust mode is a force to reckon with, we all saw what he do in Emeral Twilight, he destroyed most of the GL Corp top dogs, even his mentor, and Sinestro.
Back to Magneto support, he can detect the IW through the waves created from her movement then beat down her.
it doesn't matter really, i was just messing wit ya. But i still think Magneto would win, even if GL was Hal. But you can't strip Magneto of his awesome powers.
PS: I remember when IW was calling herself Malice once she could create her force field inside of people and make it slowly expand, virtually killing them. Would that affect magneto if he's inside his own shield or GL who is protected by his ring?
K3VIL has a point. IW's forcefields are impenetrable, but she can only hold them up for so long. For instance, when Galactus tried to break her forcefield, she started to mentally tire, and after a while, she had to drop it. But then again, it was Galactus. Her mind must be able to withstand a lot.
I said something pretty much like that on the 1st page: "And if that's not enough, all Mags needs to do is find out where she is. He can then properly blink and all the metal in the vicinity create a spheric cage around the spot where he thinks she is then start squeezing. The force with which that metal will be squeezing will eventually wear her down. She has to concentrate in order to keep the shield up. And i've seen her feint more times than Jubilee got kidnapped."
Yes it was Galactus, but on other occasions her field dropped cause physical force shockwaves and impact mentally tired her, like against Hulk for example.Maggy is not Hulk but he can reach Class 100 Strenght through his powers, and a GL can just surround himself with a battle armor powered by the ring, that grant the GL Class 100 Strenght, like Kyle did with the Hyperclan robot like member.
IW is given way too much credit on these forums and i really dont know why. Yes she can be really dangerous but her powers can be emulated by any half decent telepath telekinetic. Classic Thor has battered down IW's as has Annihillus(last month in FF: Foes) and he is only class 50. In a full on battle both GL and Mags could get through her shields while protecting themselves with their own. In my opinion Magneto wins this. Especially at his current power level.
Where has it been stated that Sues shields can block out telepathy. Apparently this was just assumed by many people when the FF rescued Jean Grey from the Phoenix cocoon and she attacked them.
Sue enveloped in her shield snuck up on Jean and threatened her from behind. Jean was surprised that she didnt sense her telepathically. People assumed from this that IWs shields block telepathy when in fact you later found out that Jean didnt sense IW because she had temporarily lost her telepathy.
If IW's fields could block out telepathy why then did onslaught own her and her family telepathically in the Baxter building. Surely she would have protected herself if she could.
ok since no one's gonna play devils advocate im gonna do it......couldnt IW just put a bubble in both their brains while invisible? because in the time that she has invisible when know one knows where she is, she can just expand a bubble in the head, lung, heart.........i mean the other two might have ways of finding her but there not gonna find her in less than a minute.....maybe even more time if there too busy fighting themselves.....
No BW that wouldnt work, especially not if Mags has a shield around him as is the norm for him not just in battle but as a day to day precaution. Magneto just like Storm and Polaris sees the world as energy patterns. Its his natural vision howver he can switch between that andnormal vision at will. He would spot IW in an instant be it from sensing and seeing the natural biomagnetic field emanating from her as it does from all living beings, or from the heat shes giving off.
ok...just to be annoying.......what does Mags sheild have to do with IW bubbles? how could his magnetism supress IW bubbles?...and if Mags and Gl are fighting whos to say that IW wont just win?.......i like all three and i dont really care who wins i was just trying to defend the only person that know one else was defending.....i picked all three for their forcefields......i always thought that if all three of them were made into an amalgam that they would rock......so what does everyone else think? Gl, Mags, or IW all bloodthirsty......going all out......who wins?
I didnt think IW's powers could affect someone from within their shield. If im wrong someone please correct me with a reference. Invisible woman creates her shapes and forcefield by shaping psionic energy. Magnetos electromagnetic energies interfere with psionic energies. That is fact. It is the reason why xaviers powers can no longer operate at the vast distances they used to(Magneto manipulated the earths electromagnetic fields to make it so. Check Essential Xmen Vol 1)
Therefore she wont be able to bypass his shields, Mags will be able to see her, BYE BYE Susie!!
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Ok now i remember that fact ( it was brought up in a Manhunter vs X thread)......i forgot that the telepaths in the Marvel world worked through electromagnetic means...and that sue's powers were mind related....dammit.....oh well......what about GL and Mags? i mean most powerful weapon in the universe has to count for something.....
Most powerful weapon in the universe? Psssh puh-lease thats just a corny line Dc hav been using for decades. Seriously now what would you rather have a GL ring or the infinity gauntlet, mjolnir, stormbreaker, quantum bands,etc. I know id rather have any of them.
Anyway i go for Magneto in a GL vs Mags bout. Mags is insanely powerful. He can incinerate supposedly nigh invulnerable people with a gesture(he did this to membersof the neo a few years back) Come on!! The man singlehandedly rapes whole rosters of Marvels superhero teams. Hes done this many a time to the Xmen and the avengers.
Come up with a strategy for GL against Mags and i bet i could counter it. Mags powers are too vast and his control istop notch especially at his current power level.
yea it is.......and its the ring thats powerful but the ring wielder that takes the power to varying degrees..... I mean Hal could probably take Mags....but kyle isnt hal.....could Kyle take Mags?
Blah blah blah...she hid Cable during her venture with Apocalypse into the Astral Plane to attack Onslaught. So can she? Obviously yes.
?Magneto isn't Dazzler. What next? Magneto converts sound into light?
And offcourse light can past through, that's why you can see Sue even though she has her shield up. Otherwise how can she be visible if light doesn't pass through the shield?
Just cause light passes through, it still doesn't mean Magneto's powers will work. Magneto and Dazzler aren't the same. Furthermore, she can convert sound into light. Guess what, Sue and everybody with shields can hear even though they have shields up.
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but what there trying to say is, i think, that since Mags powers work with all the electromagnetic spectrum he could create light since Magnetism is NOT his only power.....just the easiest to use.....I dont know.....anyone out there that can think of a way that GL wins this? I know more about Mags and his powers than I do about all the power the rings have.....so someone more educated can go at it if they please
Not necessarily. Sound isn't electromagnetic radiation. The sound could penetrate IW's shield, then be transmuted into light. The force fields can manipulate light. That's why they're invisible.
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it doesn't matter really, i was just messing wit ya. But i still think Magneto would win, even if GL was Hal. But you can't strip Magneto of his awesome powers. 
