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Warning What non-cosmic individual in Marvel or DC can kill a prep-timed Dr. Doom easily and

What non-cosmic individual in Marvel or DC can kill a prep-timed Dr. Doom easily and effortlessly, out and/or in Latveria as if it were nothing.
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Ultron? Does the attacker get prep time too?


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Even with prep, Doom has been foiled before. He took over the earth with prep, freed Magneto for fun and dared him to take the earth back. Magneto took it back. Doom with prep created Terrax, who turned against him and locked up his armor. Doom with prep attacked Thing, who beat the hell out of him. Doom with prep AND a magic pact with demons still got owned by the F4 in the end.

But this depends on your definition of non-cosmic. Does that mean anyone below Silver Surfer?


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magneto. and possibly apocolypse


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Non-cosmic = no superbeings from space and beyond.

Earthbound supers only.

Attackers get no prep time.


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magneto


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magneto


Magneto with no prep time can beat Dr. Doom with prep time?

Is that what your saying crazyspinz?

if so, how so?


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Maybe Magneto. But I'm inclined to steer away from mutants for this fight. Mutant power turn-offers are too ubiquitous. You'd need people who have either versatile or mysterious powers.

I'd say:

High Evolutionary
Juggernaut (Doom couldn't find a way to counter Cytorrak without weeks and weeks of prep time. And even then...)
Maaaaaybe Apocalypse
Higher order Externals (like Gideon)
Sentry (if he counts) - he's Galactus level
Thor (if he counts) - waaaay too many powers and way too dangerous
Higher order Eternals (like Ikaris and Sersi)
Ghost Rider
Cloak/Dagger
Bedlam


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not juggy, not thor, no way thor. no way ghost rider, probably not sentry, maybe apocalypse on a good day.


yes magneto could/has beaten doom


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Wait, you're trying to say that Thor and Sentry CAN'T beat prepped Doom or that they don't count because they're too powerful?

You realize that Sentry stalemated Galactus, right?


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Lest I seem biased, Magneto has never beaten Doom in a one-on-one confrontation. Doom hasn't beaten Magneto, either. They've had, I believe three confrontations, and all of them were inconclusive.

Magneto foiled a Doom plot, before, however.


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Ghost rider wouldnt work, Doom would just get one way mirrors over his eyes.


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But Couldn't G.Rider use the Penance Gaze on Dr. Doom?


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Yeah, I think hellfire doesn't require eye contact.


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So G.Rider could possibly defeat Dr. Doom then. Hellfire is no joke.


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Ghost rider wouldnt work, Doom would just get one way mirrors over his eyes.


But what affect would that have against the G.Rider.

The Penance Gaze doesn't work on the souless.


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The fantastic Four LMAO


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Wait, you're trying to say that Thor and Sentry CAN'T beat prepped Doom or that they don't count because they're too powerful?

You realize that Sentry stalemated Galactus, right?


sentry is too powerfull, doom carrys a pistol designed to kill thor


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sentry stalemated a weak ass Galactus .

Something the whole earth heroes couldn't do.


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