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And another while DBZ fighters are just fighting it out in the air, the Entire World shakes. And they are not like the Flash who can get stumbled just by a little rock and get unconsious.

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Dragonball characters also get hurt by means that wouldnt do anything to some JLA members... they can be hurt by throwing a rock at them if they arent aware. They get hurt crashing into mountains.. things that Supes, WW, MM, or GL could shrug off easily.

This is easy. Bats and MM figure out that the DBZ characters use Chi. GL surrounds them with fields that prevent them from accessing chi. Wonder woman lassos them, Supes heat visions them to nothing, MM shuts off their synapses...etc etc etc.

JLA have had trouble with weak smart foes but have also beaten foes far stronger than the DBZ characters combined.


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Batman has never won a fight with Supes in Canon. He fought Supes in Hush which was canon, and nearly got himself killed. Even in Batman/Superman issue a future Superman almost killed Bats if not for Superman being there it would have happened.


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And not like Flash because they can't travel through time under "their own" power.


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Dragonball characters also get hurt by means that wouldnt do anything to some JLA members... they can be hurt by throwing a rock at them if they arent aware. They get hurt crashing into mountains.. things that Supes, WW, MM, or GL could shrug off easily.

This is easy. Bats and MM figure out that the DBZ characters use Chi. GL surrounds them with fields that prevent them from accessing chi. Wonder woman lassos them, Supes heat visions them to nothing, MM shuts off their synapses...etc etc etc.

JLA have had trouble with weak smart foes but have also beaten foes far stronger than the DBZ characters combined.


I don't see how GL could make a shield that stops there ki from forming but he could make as KI immunity shield around the JLA which automatically wins the fight since the Z warriors are more for ki fights.

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i think superman would have a problem with the big monkey guy

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The Chi Energy comes from their body it is not like GL's power witch comes from the ring.

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Lobo has beaten Superman, and Lobo is a slow fighter. DBZ Warriors will just pound them in an instant.

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I don't see how GL could make a shield that stops there ki from forming but he could make as KI immunity shield around the JLA which automatically wins the fight since the Z warriors are more for ki fights.


Normally, GL wouldnt be able to do it..but since the thread is about the whole JLA. People like Bats, WW, and MM are all familiar with how chi works, and they've instructed GL on how to create effective traps before. GL's only weakness (technically) is his will or if he doesnt understand how something works.
JLA together is an incredible team. Especially when Grant was writing them.

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Lobo has beaten Superman, and Lobo is a slow fighter. DBZ Warriors will just pound them in an instant.


Lobo could kill everybody from Vegetto down with ease if he was paid to,

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Normally, GL wouldnt be able to do it..but since the thread is about the whole JLA. People like Bats, WW, and MM are all familiar with how chi works, and they've instructed GL on how to create effective traps before. GL's only weakness (technically) is his will or if he doesnt understand how something works.
JLA together is an incredible team. Especially when Grant was writing them.


Yea but he could do it if MM told him how. Plus all the JLA are link telepathically so they're all being told wat to do at speed of thought while the only two Z warriors that work well together are Goten, and Trunks.

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The DBZ chars are not just KI fight's they battle it out by Hand to Hand combat till there is nothing left to fight.

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Yea but he could do it if MM told him how. Plus all the JLA are link telepathically so they're all being told wat to do at speed of thought while the only two Z warriors that work well together are Goten, and Trunks.


Exactly the point I was trying to bring up. Thanks.

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The DBZ chars are not just KI fight's they battle it out by Hand to Hand combat till there is nothing left to fight.


But they only way they can do anything amazing like blow up planets, and junk is with Ki. They're not that strong otherwise.

Being hit in the head with rock = hurt if they aren't paying attention

Being knocked thru mountains = hurt during fights.

Without Ki to do any big effect to any of the few they blast like anybody but WW, SM, MM and Flash they are finished. Plus they don't even work well as a team unless its Goten, and Trunks, and there it no Goten in this fight.

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Superman is hurt while Wonder Woman smash him into a wall
Green Lantern w/shield is hurt when some one throw a grenade in him
Wonder Woman is not as fast as Supes or Flash and not as strong
Martian cannot Telepathically hold them because they have Will Power better than any other heroes I've seen.
Flash can be easily deafeted with one punch
Batman can be easily deafeted one punch

All that is in there s what I saw in Comics and Watched in TV.

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No VEGETA has willpower better then anybody cause of his pride. Nobody else has ever been controlled, and Vegeta was only able to be controlled cause of the evil in his heart.

What GL are you using? That's a nice factor in the fight also.

They'd have to catch Flash but they wouldn't be able to cause he'd be moving to fast for them. MM it also a lot stronger telepath then Babidi, plus intangible they can't hit him, and invisible they can't see him. Batman = dead. Anybody under WW in power = Dead. WW, and up = kicking there butt with ease.

You don't even have Goten yet u have Trunks. At least put up two ppl that can fight together. The rest of the Z team are more one on one fighters while the JLA can fight one on one, or group on group.


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When Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and MM are fighting normal people can see them. Plus Superman can't fight at superspeed when he is facing strong beings like Wonder Woman, Grundee(very slow has been dupe by Joker), Lobo, Hulk, Even while he is fighting Flash or Batman.
MM cannot Telepathically hold DBZ Warriors because all of them have strong will.

Even if GL has his ring he can be easily blown off in the inside.

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How can a GL be easily blown aside? Plus which one is it? Kyle, Hal, or John.


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Kyle Hal and Stewart

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Superman fought Doomsday at Super Speed, and has done many things at super speed. Instant transport is not super-speed. Being faster than the eye is also not difficult.

Dragonball characters get caught all the time with normal speed attacks. They only start moving fast once they are physically fighting.

Supes can easily turn them into nothing with just his heat vision. Martian vision is just as bad.

As a team...the JLA is too much of a force for the characters you put up.


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