oh my bad.. I suppose gohan crying like a lil shithead was going to save the world.... it was goku who told him to buck up and start using his full power... again.. goku the MVP
I'll point out Frieza blew up a planet. That's around the level of Goku when he first hit SS1. By the end of DBZ, Goku had hit SS3, as well as having a huge base increase. No freaking contest in blasting. Strength is strange in DBZ. Most have the strength to punch others through mountains and the like, but struggle with objects like boulders...
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I think that would depend if they controlled their power, or flailed it wildly.. I've never known goku to just run around smashing up the planet he lives on, or anyone elses.. thats more vegetas style heh
Akuma. Goku fights like a amature and he loses strength way to fast. Hes not going to beat a serious fighter as Akumas is, in any transformation. Goku can throw energy blast all day, Akuma will just teleport away and force him to fight in close combat, where he nails him with a Shoryuken.
Guess I'm gonna have to school everyone on Goku's strengths and abilities. First of all there is no way Akuma is physically stronger than Goku. In other world couple of months after the cell saga we see Goku training with weights on his limbs. Anyway long story short King Kai makes each weight 40 tons thats 4x40, Goku then says it would be to easy as SSj1. Thats 7yrs before the Buu saga in which Goku trained intensley every day.
Instant Translocation. Goku stated it allowed him to move at something like 180,000mps (round about light speed). He said this to Trunks after he killed Freiza when Goku didn't show up. I seriously doubt Akuma could keep up with such speed.
Do I really even have to explain his Ki ability? Cell unleashed a Kamehameha intended to destroy the Earth which was easily sent back at him by SSj2 Gohan. Goku wins in this department hands down, I would say.
His durability is phenomenal but if he doesn't have his guard up he can be hurt by simple things like rocks and frying pans lol. He is amazing at H2H combat, trained in martial arts since about 4yrs old. And has won the World Martial Arts tournament twice. If SS to long he starts to get tired but only in ssj3 and maybe 2. Since him and Gohan found a way to always be Super Sayain without it taking up any energy. Above all this he can fly which just gives him another unfair advantage.
Goku is definitely an overpowered character which is why he really shouldn't go against people outside the Dbz universe.
Last edited by Magee on Jun 10th, 2005 at 10:33 PM
Hes not a over powerful character. DBZ/GT hasn't done anything that I haven't seen in any other anime. Hes been trained in MAs but it never seem to help him. Lots of beings are destroy earths now so thats getting pretty old now.
The Kamehameha wave is to slow to pull off so that wouldn't be a good option. Spirit bomb takes even longer to charge so thats out as well. He lifted a halve a city in ssj3 (manga only, he never shown any feats in the anime in that transformation), and struggles with a buliding in ssj4. Instat transmmision is like a teleporting technique that allows him to travel any where he wants if he taps on to some ones energy, it takes time to do.
Hes not that much of a good fighter because he always needs help in his battles. Heck when he doesn't need help he still fights terrible; Like the fight against Super 17, ssj4 Goku just kept firing energy blast at 17 while hes smileing absorbing his energy attacks and Goku still couldn't figure out what he was doing, dr. Myuu even told him that he absorb energy attacks, and ssj4 Goku still fired a Kamehameha wave (not much of a fighting expert to me).
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damn good post, but you gotta see that Goku makes supes look weak, I mean they destroy planets, and move this and that speed ,a nd fly, they are just overpowred, they are like the most powered universe basically.
If he can charge the super attacks. He has superspeed but so does Akuma. They're not to overpowered, I'm mean ssj4 Goku couldn't out beat a energy blast from Omega Shinron so hes not all that fast.
IMO I think Supes is a better fight for Akuma then Goku. DBZ/GT is a good anime and have powerful beings but I don't think they are that powerful to be ranked above everybody else. Anyways everybody has there own oppinon, it's just that I have seen others that are powerful than them or just as powerful.
I got Thanos, Superman, Silver Sufer, Captain Marvel, Demitri, Pyron (a being on Galactus level or maybe even higher) Morrigan, Darkseid, Akuma, Gill, Oro, Kenshiro, The slayers, Fushigi Yugi, Dark Pheonix, Drax, Gladiator, and much, much, more.
Why you keep refering to DBGT is beyond me. It wasn't even created by Akira Toriyama and tbh it was complete bs.
Goku wont have to use a kamehameha or Spirit Bomb to defeat Akuma, just fire some ki blasts his way. I really can't understand how some people think Akuma could win, he just can't. He's got nothing, Goku's stronger, faster, more powerful and durable.