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x-men team vs avengers team

colossus, wolverine, and jean vs ironman, captain america, and thor

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oh this takes place in a deserted city and this is in character fighting


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the Avengers slaughter the X-Men...... the only possible delay would be Jean but Thor's mind is protected from mental assaults


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i dont think it would be that easy because in ultimate war colossus was kicking the crap out of thor and wolverine wrecked ironman but thats the ultimate universe
i think that jean could knock out captain america first while colossus handles thor and iron man he would be overwhlemed but keep fighting long enough for wolvie to sneak up on stark since he cant be detected my his radar then trash his armor now jean and wolvie help out a hurt colossus against thor


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i think that jean could knock out captain america first while colossus handles thor and iron man he would be overwhlemed but keep fighting long enough for wolvie to sneak up on stark since he cant be detected my his radar then trash his armor now jean and wolvie help out a hurt colossus against thor


in regular universe Avengers this would never happen, IM has force fields he uses in battles that Wolverine can't get through. Thor would kill Colossus if he wanted to..... but a KO will do.... IM could take Colossus solo as well


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Well jean after the recent retcon as was originally intended jean is and always has been phoenix. It was her who went mad as dark phoenix and destroyed d'bari. The x team would win. wolverine could handle captain america and collossus could at least keep play a distraction to thor and nothing in iron mans arsenal could harm jean and when shes done with him she could help out the others.


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I guess, just like GS mentioned(more or less), that it all depends on which "incarnation" of Jean we are talking about. It all stands and falls with her for the X-Men in this fight.


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Cap can handle Wolverine, Iron Man can handle Colossus...... if either of those X-Men went against Thor he'd murder them so Jean has to fight him first..... and she'd lose


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Phoenix would lose against thor? Do u read comics?


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phoenix would murder him and his pantheon


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how bout this is the jean with phoenix force to even it up i believe it was said she could tap into like 1/16th of the phoenix force maximum


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Screw the pheonix force. Of course, if Jean was Pheonix the x-men would win (even with 1/16 of the Pheonix Force's power, they would). But nothing was specified in the thread about pheonix...it just says Jean. That said, Avengers roll in style on this one.

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did u not read what i said. Jean is and always has been the phoenix. It was originally intended for it to be that way then that got retconned. But now its been changed bk after the grant morrison run and its been carried on even in phoenix endsong. Jean always is connected with the force. She's its top avatar.


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jean as phoenix would deystroy thor.


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long enough for wolvie to sneak up on stark since he cant be detected my his radar then trash his armor



Since when can Wolverine go undetected by Iron Man's radar, sonar, infrared, and electrical/magnetic sensors???

And how exactly will Wolverine's claws penetrate the armor's force field???


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did u not read what i said. Jean is and always has been the phoenix. It was originally intended for it to be that way then that got retconned. But now its been changed bk after the grant morrison run and its been carried on even in phoenix endsong. Jean always is connected with the force. She's its top avatar.


Then why has the PF been with others? Or is it permanently back to Jean after hopping around? And which series is this....I'm unfamiliar with one where she's the Pheonix permanently?

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the phoenix force can be with more than one at the same time


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in ultimate war wolverine took out iron man but that's about all i know


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Then why has the PF been with others? Or is it permanently back to Jean after hopping around? And which series is this....I'm unfamiliar with one where she's the Pheonix permanently?

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The phoenix force bestows its power on many avatars. Jean grey is the phoenix of the white crown meaning shes the top avatar and she can draw on far more power than the others. All of the phoenixes work as doctors of the universe healing what needs to be healed (m'kraan crystal) and destroying what doesnt work(d'bari and the destructive mutant sublime) The phoenix has and always will be a part of jean. Thats how the writers originally intended it but that got retconned but now grant morrisons recently changed it bk in new xmen over the last yr and a half. This has carried on into phoenix endsong


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