he's the molecule man. control over molecules. incredibly powerful.
there ain't a damn thing he can do to counter the magical powers of
a sky-father. they can alter molecular structures as well as an untold
number of other abilities and powers. many of which are magic-based.
molecule man is not magic-based. although more powerful than them,
even galactus wouldn't just start a fight with a sky-father.
Odin and zeus would take this one but solely due to their mystical abilities. Molecule mans very powerful. If the cube beings are just below the abstracts and owens like the most dangerous of them id put him at high skyfather level
im agreeing with u MM. He is really powerful but hes got no defense against mystical abilities. His power holds no sway over them at all. If for the purposes of this battle we were to ban them from using mystical powers then i believe owen would win.
Of course Galactus is much more powerful than a Sky-father, but he
wouldn't recklessly use up his powers to fight one for the hell of it.
When Thanos and Odin battled, Odin proved to be more powerful and
had Thanos on the ropes. In Thanos' ongoing series, he gave Galactus
a bit of a fight, but was overwhelmed of course. He then later showed
Galactus that he can be out-smarted and if he got out-of-line, there are
forces in the universe that would find a way to take him down.
First of all, Thano didn't give Galactus a fight.
It can't even be called a fight.He just blasted him at full force, merely destroying his helmet, and please, just look at Big G size, he was pretty much weakned, he was under the 30 feet size.Yes Thanos send him flying with that energy blast, but then Galactus come back and with a single hit subdued him leaving Thanos begging for mercy, the being that was going to eat our Universe outsmart Galactus, but you gotta understand that a Universe Eater, is on a different scale from that of a Sky Father, so your example doesn't fit.
i see your point.
i won't argue cause i more or less agree and it's freakin' friday.
but sky-fathers are definitely too much for molecule man.
i would love to see some conflict between galactus and
zeus for example. now that the asgardians are gone, it
would be nice to show-off some of the other pantheons.
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hmm, methinks some here are not properly respecting owen:
<<reece could now control all matter, even down to the molecular level, and all energy>> i'm guessing that also includes MAGIC energy - otherwise dr strange would have wrecked owen in the SWII series.
<<uatu, the alien water whose task it is to observe Earth, recognized the dire threat owen posed to the MULTIVERSE>>
it is also said that though his power was less than the beyonder's it was close, and he battled the beyonder one on one for a prolonged period of time.
beyonder's power was also somewhat illusion-based,
making him appear more powerful than he really is.
but of course, marvel keeps upgrading/changing
peoples' powers and there's no character consistency anymore.....
.....so really.....who the hell knows anymore.
isn't aunt may a sky-mothering cube-being now.....
This is hte best argument I've seen. I'll agree with it.
Sure Beyonder's powers were said to be partly based on illusion, but what exactly does that mean? He was still wicked powerful. It doesn't discredit everything he did in his comics.
And while the Skyfathers obviously have Dr. Strange trumped in many ways, Strange is a magical badass. Some people's arguments are revolving around the mysical forces or magic of the Skyfathers protecting them from being removed from existence or defeated by MM...then why couldn't Strange do anything to Molecule Man?
I thought owen being human made him the most powerful of them due to his human imagination and therfore how he would apply his powers. I didnt think it was in terms of energy he generates because he's still an incomplete cosmic cube. Either way the CC beings are somewhere between high skyfather level and low level abstract beings in terms of power and status. Odin or zeus goin against MM alone would be a mismatch therefore, but when you have the two arguably most powerful skyfathers around then i think they have what it takes to beat owen colectively