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Digi
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Besides, Superman is close to any of the Flash's in speed. They're basically at light-speed. Any Superman type is near-lightspeed. Some are even faster (at least for traveling...not necessarily in reflexes and such).

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I don't know enough to say for sure about Champ. From what I've heard he's always written bad and doesn't have a ton except great fighting skills and some power cosmic (which most if not all of the heralds have, so that's not a big deal). He's an Eternal (right?) so some people might object, but I wouldn't put him above Surfer (or a lot of other herald-level people), as long as he doesn't have the gem.

So I'm fine with Champion. I would still strongly object to Cyttorak, but Champ is cool.

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Champions "Power Primordial" kicks the balls of Surfers "Power Cosmic"..... he's beyond herald


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ThorBuster armor..........
.........IM made it to hang with Thor...I don't think he ever actually beat him in it


he made it to "hang" with King Thor..... and he hurt him with it..... it's powered by Asgardian magics and may be OTT here...... plus it was only used once then trashed....... it'd be like picking 8th Day Juggs..... which was banned earlier


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Yep, allow all the Flashs in and pit them against each other so they cancel out. eek!


i wouldn't say that.......... Barry was nowhere near as fast as Impulse or Wally-Flash..... he didn't have any knowledge of the "speed force" and wasn't close to light speed


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I just noticed Scoob's and Scarlet's first two pics make exactly the same guy! LOL eek!


i also noticed the similarities.... big grin ..... i thought he may even take BRB after i took Thor..... lol

i think there are some significant differences between Kyle/Lantern and Quasar

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if i cant have chanp (which i WANT!) ill change him for mangog.
I WANT CHAMP tho.


mangog is way above herald level in terms of strength


sorry for the multiple posting...... just playing a little catch up with the progress here


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evang you answered everyone else's questions but not kine. why can't i have nimrod?? he is under herald level. he fits all the rules. amd to be truly honest you are a little bit biased. you have a problem with all my characters. i can't have certain characters and you don't have a reason for that. and you got pissed for me chagning my opick mid0draft where others have done that and you don't seem to care

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Yeah... Scoob got the better Flash and "green lantern",


I beg to differ. Wally and Bart are the exact same for powers, aside from Bart's photographic memory. I chose Rayner so he has the unlimited energy and yellow immunity. Though the issue of having to train your willpower to it may become tiresome, and I think I'll try to switch him for someone else.


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I beg to differ. Wally and Bart are the exact same for powers


Flash has more experience..... and has a cooler costume

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Evangel, you never answered SF or my questions. Mine was pertaining to Psylocke, would her psychic knife be allowed?

To longpig- Multiple posting is a reportable offense.


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So it's the power primordial that Chamipon has...not power cosmic. That probably changes things, but I'll let the more knowledgable types take over from here (don't know enough about power primordial, but Scoob seems to think it's well beyond cosmic and/or herald level).

And stormfront...like I said before, I think it has something to do with Nimrod's ability to adapt on the fly and change/improve his technology. His Marvel bio explicitly says he can modify his technology to improve himself (too lazy to post the link, but it's from Marvel Directory).

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(don't know enough about power primordial, but Scoob seems to think it's well beyond cosmic and/or herald level).


i may be wrong about that...... i'm looking up sites now for more info

but the power primordial is what champion, Grandmaster and all the other "Elders" use

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"He cannot be hurt by any means short of molecular dispersion"

that alone has to be enough to put him out of this

http://comicscentral.tripod.com/mar...he_universe.htm


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Well I think at the least it makes Champ a suspect pick...something Evangel should look at and think about...

http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoop...php?entryID=158

Here's a link to him (I forgot to look at teh one longpig gave for him). It says that the power primordial is responsible for his strength and relative invulnerability, but that he can't project energy blasts of primordial energy. He also, apparently, taps into the power cosmic as well. But all in all, he still looks like a roughly 100-Class brawler who has great fighting skills and is relatively tough to take down (no more so than many of our other Superman-types). He seems like a solid pick to me, one that probably flirts with herald level, but I still don't think he'd beat Surfer (from what I read in the bio).

-DM

P.S. ...hmmm, missed the molecular dispersion part. I'd be inclined to change my opinion after seeing that.


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P.S. ...hmmm, missed the molecular dispersion part. I'd be inclined to change my opinion after seeing that.


yeah......... this time i'll post it in bold

He cannot be hurt by any means short of molecular dispersion

as we are banned from using matter manipulation on our opponents, i'd suggest a character who can only be hurt by matter dispersion be disallowed

no offence to whoever it is that is trying to pick him

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Sufficient cosmic energy would disperse his molecules eek! Maybe.

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"maybe" is right.......... if Destroyer isn't allowed for being almost indestructible then Champion shouldn't be either


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No one else remembers the Champion of the universe? The guy who, in his first appearance in comics, came to earth and beat the hell out of every heavy hitter, including Hulk, without effort? The only reason he didn't blow up the world was because Ben Grimm wouldn't give up. He couldn't even hurt the Champion, but no matter how badly he got beaten he kept trying to get up. This guy draws on the energy that created the universe. He is way freaking above Herald level. Seriously, guys, stop trying to slip these beasts past and just pick characters who fit in the guidelines, this is taking too long.

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yes digi i know he can do that. but he doesn't do it automatically. its just one of his many powers. if we are not allowed to use characters that can use the powers that evang mentioned were not to be used then a lot of people will have to change their picks

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the characters picked who can perform certain feats .... ie. Silver Surfer with his matter manipulation, aren't allowed to use those powers

there are hundreds of powerful characters in Marvel and DC.... just pick another one.... Nimrod isn't that great anyway


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i don't much care about getting nimrod anymore but i still want a straight answer from evang why i can't have him. she hasn'y givenme one even thogh i have asked about 5 times

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Evangel doesn't seem to be online as much as some of us..... maybe she hasn't got your message yet..... i doubt she's ignoring you


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