The whole Coruscant theater scene with Anakin and Palps has so many things written all over it.
For one, pretty obvious that Palpatine was the one who killed Plagueis in his sleep. You can tell this by the close up of his face after he says it....his eyes, the thing he does with his tounge....the line he says afterward "Ironic, isn't it." Maybe all of this was confirmed or expanded upon in the books or something....but I don't read any of that garbage. I just stay true to the movies.
So if Plagueis learned how to influence midi-chilorians, and taught his apprentice everything he knew....that means Palpatine knew how to do it. To me this make Episode 1 really cool, because Qui-Gon says "There are no accidents" and Palpatine at the end tells Anakin "We'll watch your career with great interest." So everything was sort of "fate."
So many beautiful things that Lucas set up that were either just plained bashed for the saking of having something to complain about, or overlooked.
Having said that, after the theater scene, my interpretation was always that Palpatine was the one responsible for Anakin's birth....so in a way, that makes him Anakin's father, or father figure. And when you watch the prequels, Palpatine was in the background guiding Anakin. It was his master-plan all along, so it makes sense.
There are indeed many subtleties in these scenes. But since they never come to full fruition, nor do they have any effect on the outcome of the story, they seem rather irrelevant.
I like all these angles, but my complaint is more along the lines of Lucas not really using what he sows in these scenes. And if he doesn't use them, why sow them?
It was actually Plagueis who is believe to have influenced the creation of Anakin because it states in several sources that Sidious never learned how to manipulate midi-chlorians. When Plagueis discovered midi-chlorian manipulation, he informed Sidious, who became fearful that he was going to be cast aside and Plagueis would create a new, perfect apprentice, so Sidious killed Plagueis before he learned the skill.
And that's the issue, "it states in several sources."
But the only source I go by is the context of the actual scene that we saw in the movie...in my opinion, and although I know this isn't necessarily true, the movie is the official thing...and what you take from what you saw on the movie is what you get.
In the context of the scene from the "official" movie, and not all the other written books or video games and all that stuff, my individual interpretation at least, was that Plagueis learned to influence midi-chilorians, he told Palps how to do it, (hence why Palpatine says "He told his apprentice everything he knew") then Palps killed Sidious...like most Sith apprentice's do to become the ultimate power...and created Anakin to become the ultimate apprentice....the puppet that he could manipulate and control to do most of his dirty work.
But I guess that's the beauty of this scene. We only get just enough information out of it that the audience can form their own opinions on the creation of Anakin. I really love that, because from my viewpoint, it allows me to believe that Palpatine was the one who created him based on what we see from the movie, and not all the books and video game add ons.
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Last edited by Sith Master X on Mar 4th, 2011 at 12:33 AM
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Okay, using only scenes from the "official" movie:
"To cheat death is a power only one has achieved, but if we work together...I know we can discover the secret."
Basically, that translates to: "You know all that stuff I told you about my Master teaching me everything he knew? Well, I lied...I'm evil."
I don't think there's any other way to interpret Palpatine's disclaimer.
At that point, Anakin could've just cut off Palpatine's head since he knew he was lied to or play along - hoping Palpatine really knew a way to keep Padme alive. He played along and was corrupted by the Dark Side - just as Palpatine planned. Palpatine could sell ketchup popsicles to a woman in white gloves.
"For once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny." Very true for Anakin.
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