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Originally posted by Napalm
LOL Another great story well done pvs


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I wish there was a pic that incident It has owned ritten all over it


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Yo napalm look dude the woman was already 8 months pregnate the fact that she was 8th months pregnant and got 50,000 volts shot into her could easily send her into labor causing the baby to be born a month early. The baby wouldn't be born naturally it would be a stressed birth which can cause health problems for the baby esp. being born a mont early. I'm apathetic towards life but to say that was funny is ignorance, do I care not really I see people get sick and I see people die almost everyday but it was not certainly funny. no expression


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Exactly. Which is more important? : The welfare of an unborn child or the filing of parking ticket?


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that baby could have easily been killed and could possibly have permanent neurological damage. the body is a conductor and it doesnt take a genius to realise that 50000 went through it as well as the mother.

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Theres going to be a huge lawsuit over this one,and the woman is well with in her rights to do so.They put both her and her unborn child at a high healthrisk,personaly the cop that did it would meet the back of my truck and a nice 5-20 mile roadtrip all the while being dragged at 70 MPH.


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Re: Pregnant Woman Tasered by Police

Mmm..kay, there isn't many details about this incident so I'm going to go with what the article says:

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In a two-day trial that ended Friday, the officer involved, Officer Juan Ornelas, testified he clocked Brooks' Dodge Intrepid doing 32 mph in a 20-mph school zone.


Okay, here the woman is clearly at fault. Doing a 32mph in 20mph school zone is agaisn't the law. There is a huge posibility that she hit a child or any other pedestrian during school hours. So yes, the police had to pull her over.

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He motioned her over and tried to write her a ticket, but she wouldn't sign it, even when he explained that signing it didn't mean she was admitting guilt.


Just sign the damn thing! Why would the woman refuse? Just doesn't make any sense.

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Brooks, in her testimony, said she believed she could accept a ticket without signing for it, which she had done once before.


Oh so she has been stopped by the police before...interesting.

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Officer Donald Jones joined Ornelas in trying to persuade Brooks to sign the ticket. They then called on their supervisor, Sgt. Steve Daman.

He authorized them to arrest her when she continued to refuse.

The officers testified they struggled to get Brooks out of her car but could not because she kept a grip on her steering wheel.


Here Officer Jones did the right thing by reporting to his supervisor. What doesn't make sense here is why would Sgt. Daman would want the woman arrested?

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Brooks said she was worried about the effect the trauma and the Taser might have on her baby, but she delivered a healthy girl Jan. 31.


Well is good to know her child was born with no complications.

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I know the Taser is controversial in all these situations where it seems so egregious," he said. "Why use a Taser in a simple traffic stop? Well, the citizen has made it more of a problem. It's no longer a traffic stop. This is now a confrontation."


Indeed this turn from a simple speeding ticket to a confrontation. From what it seems this case turn from bad to worse. There was no need for a tazer....just no reason at all. But every coin has two sides. The woman shoulda sign the ticket and follow instructions from Officer Jones. Why struggle and make things worse over a speeding ticket? The woman made the mistake in first place by speeding 30mph in a school zone.


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On Top of that I've been zapped by a tazer before I would never consider using it on an woman unless she was trying to kill me or rape me, well actually I probably wouldn't even stop a woman if she was trying to rape me. Anyway They are non-lethal weapons but they burn like hell, And I believe that they are non-lethal depending on wieght and heart condition because if you need a pacemaker or have a heart condition they will stop your heart if you get zapped. a babies heart is small and weak that is not funny at all. I would only use a taser an adult male.


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Re: Re: Pregnant Woman Tasered by Police

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Just sign the damn thing! Why would the woman refuse? Just doesn't make any sense.


its her, your, and my right to not be forced into signing anything.



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Oh so she has been stopped by the police before...interesting.


i've been pulled over many times over the 12+ years i have been driving. really, how is this cause for suspicion?



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Here Officer Jones did the right thing by reporting to his supervisor. What doesn't make sense here is why would Sgt. Daman would want the woman arrested?


what doesnt make sense is that it is her right as a U.S. citizen to not sign the damn thing.


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Well is good to know her child was born with no complications.

and while we are on the topic of the baby, ill ask again, "what crime did the baby commit to deserve to be shocked with 50000 volts". i can see from what you wrote that you in no way support this, but at the same time you avoid that very issue and just say it was 'wrong' as if it was just taken a bit to far. the line was well crossed and almost led to police-ordered infanticide. thats the issue here. the arrest in itself is trivial, really.

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i hope that ***hole of a cop was fired...or better yet, tazered with the same tazer for at least 1 min.


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The police using the tazer does not make sense...period. The woman speeding in a school zone broke the law period! Speeding in a school zone is stupid and there is a chance a kid going to school could get run over. So no matter how many rights you throw at the case the woman is responsible for speeding. The Sgt. who order the woman to be tazer should be investigated and possibly discharged for abuse of authority.


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Theres going to be a huge lawsuit over this one,and the woman is well with in her rights to do so.They put both her and her unborn child at a high healthrisk,personaly the cop that did it would meet the back of my truck and a nice 5-20 mile roadtrip all the while being dragged at 70 MPH.

make it a wrangler goin' 100mph

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The police using the tazer does not make sense...period. The woman speeding in a school zone broke the law period! Speeding in a school zone is stupid and there is a chance a kid going to school could get run over. So no matter how many rights you throw at the case the woman is responsible for speeding. The Sgt. who order the woman to be tazer should be investigated and possibly discharged for abuse of authority.

it was a bad choice, yes...for the woman and the cop.

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Gee, maybe the fact that she's pregnant? Have you ever heard of a woman having a miscarriage?

I cannot believe how insensitive and idiotic some people can be.....


Hmm...I don't think that I can be counted as miscarriage of the woman is eight months pregnant. It is not fetus either on that state, really.


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Does it matter? She apparently did not sign it before, meaning that from her point of view it wasn't required. Now she was pregnant probably pissed of, apparently late already. But using a taser on an clearly pregnant woman? Thats just stupid. Especially in a situation like this, the cops clearly overreacted here.


Totallly agree with you I just wanted to know. I've always been told that I have to sign by the Police Officer when I've received a ticket...


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What an absolute moron of a man. Sheesh, he deserves to be suspended for a week of 12!

Idiot. She's pregnat - theres no excuse for his behaviour, and if people know about pregnat women then they would know how the hormones work in them, that they are quick to temper - all pregnant women are.

If she didn't want to sign, then he should have took her lisence plate and let her go, then send her a bill later, as opposed to acting like a complite shite.


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He should have just used pepper spray.


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The stupid driver should have just signed the ticket and be on her way then plead her case in court instead of being an idiot and wasteing more time and getting tazered.

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What an absolute moron of a man. Sheesh, he deserves to be suspended for a week of 12!

Idiot. She's pregnat - theres no excuse for his behaviour, and if people know about pregnat women then they would know how the hormones work in them, that they are quick to temper - all pregnant women are.

If she didn't want to sign, then he should have took her lisence plate and let her go, then send her a bill later, as opposed to acting like a complite shite.


Well that's not police precedure.


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The stupid driver should have just signed the ticket and be on her way then plead her case in court instead of being an idiot and wasteing more time and getting tazered.


yes how dare she get tasered!

im sick of this dimwit sheep logic of "had she just obeyed, nothing would have happened".

that cop put the life of her baby at great risk. where is the line drawn? if the cop just pulled his gun and blew her brains out the side of her head, what then? "well, she should have just signed the ticket", right?

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Keep in mind, she wasn't tasered for NOT signing the ticket, but for refusing to go with police when she was placed under arrest.

It's her fault this happened.


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