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quote: (post ) Originally posted by cdtm
Ostrander had Martian Manhunter take on the entire JLA, including Superman.
This was MM as he should've been written all along, morphing limbs out of nowhere and actually using his versatility, and he did quite well for himself.. But no major one vs one tussles or anything. Still, Ostranders run gave some solid arguments for why MM should really own Supes.
However, a white martian had Supes dead to rights by engulfing and smothering him, and HV doesn't create fire in and of itself so that wasn't saving him. In the end, it was the fire from Earths core that saved him, but MM is smart enough to avoid that...
There's also one issue where MM had Ultraman basically defeated and immobilized.. Wish I know the issue. Been looking for that one for awhile..
I think Morrison did it.
JLA: Earth-2.
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May 23rd, 2010 05:25 PM
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In a comic, Superman wins 8/10. On KMC Martian wins 8 or 9/10. He IS Supes with additional powers.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
In a comic, Superman wins 8/10. On KMC Martian wins 8 or 9/10. He IS Supes with additional powers.
not to mention cooler!!!
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May 23rd, 2010 05:53 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
JLA: Earth-2.
Thanks.
It was a pretty awesome scene, too.
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May 23rd, 2010 05:54 PM
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Superman wins. His just a notch above John in raw power.
People love to claim that he goes intangible and mind rapes but that's not much more likely than Superman performing some heat vision lobotomy or tossing John in the Sun.
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May 23rd, 2010 09:21 PM
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I lol'd pretty hard when I read that issue.
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MM has all of Supes abilities plus a few more but none of them are as potent. He's strong, but Supers is clearly stronger. He's fast but Supes could still speed blitz him.
Let off the leash, Superman is just an extremely powerful individual. Capable of going toe to toe with enemies that would squash other heroes...Doomsday comes to mind. Also, look at how quickly Superman took people like Lobo apart when he was possessed by Eclipso.
May 23rd, 2010 09:28 PM
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"Oh, my..." indeed.
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May 23rd, 2010 09:28 PM
donxavier
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"oh, my..."
That is hilarious.
It does illustrate a good point. The intangible thing only works if MM is fast enough to use it before getting a chestful of heat vision. I mean it is light so even if MM and Supes are separated by 30yrds it would hit MM before he could even blink.
May 23rd, 2010 09:36 PM
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May 23rd, 2010 10:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman wins. His just a notch above John in raw power.
People love to claim that he goes intangible and mind rapes but that's not much more likely than Superman performing some heat vision lobotomy or tossing John in the Sun.
If you take the sum total of Supermans appearances, and the sum total of MM's, and average it out, he's probably about as likely (If not more likely!) to use his powers properly as Supes is to use his.
John Ostrander is a good starting point, but there's examples throughout his League tenure and in various other comics..
May 24th, 2010 12:18 AM
batdude123
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Superman is just plain better, as Phil and I have made painfully obvious.
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May 24th, 2010 12:25 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by batdude123
Superman is just plain better, as Phil and I have made painfully obvious.
But Martian Manhunter could shapeshift into Batman.
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May 24th, 2010 12:27 AM
Rage.Of.Olympus
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by cdtm
If you take the sum total of Supermans appearances, and the sum total of MM's, and average it out, he's probably about as likely (If not more likely!) to use his powers properly as Supes is to use his.
John Ostrander is a good starting point, but there's examples throughout his League tenure and in various other comics..
Luckily for Clark though, he doesn't have to use his powers properly to defeat John. He can just plain do a plain beat down. No fancy shit needed.
And also what Batdude said.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Omega Vision
But Martian Manhunter could shapeshift into Batman.
A cheap imitation.
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