__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
anyways....in one of wolverine's books he went undercover or some such and dispalyed enough agility to trick people into believing he was spiderman,,,,then beast,,,,then captain america.......he can be pretty damn agile when he wants to......
and what's human about jumping 35 feet into the air?
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
How is jumping 35 feet in the air possible for any creature limited to human strength and lugging an adamantium skeleton around as well? He would have to have as much leg strength as the Beast at least and he's not even noted to have that much...Picture's are sometimes just unexplained... Do you think that the hulk changes sizes from moment to moment like he does in his pictures? Cause one minute he has an adult in the palm of his hand and a few panels later you may see another adult standing only two heads shorter than him.... It looks cool though.
well hulk actually has the ability to change in size depending on incarnation and rage factor....my whole point was that everyone thinks wolverine's simply human when almost all his feats would indicate otherwise....
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
ummmmm wolverine's take down bears and RUN down elk.......but that aside.....has nothing to do with the fight.........have you seen what happens to other hunter's that wolverine fights? it ain't pretty...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Wolverine does have speed and agility, its a step below spiderman. Read the 1st issue of hulk and wolverine fight, it simply state in there that he has blinding speed. I seen 1 comic where wolverine was standing like 20 ft away from a soldier and he told the soldier that the worst thing he could do would be to pull the trigger on that gun. The guy pulled the trigger and wolverine jerked to the side and it gazed his face. In a milli second wolverine speed across the piles of bodied chopping the man hand off.
Another example of his speed was when he was held at point blank by 3 mob guys in a room, they all had guns at his chest. wolverine claws popped out sliced the guns and he had his hands back on his side without them seeing it. About a minute later the guys guns fell apart and they didnt even see wolverine move a muscle. Now that is blinding speed.
Another time was when he was doing an investigation on a little girl that was kidnapped. He was thought by the world as being dead, thats when he got the secret identity as patch. He was on a roof and spiderman was slinging by. He see wolverine but he thought that it was an imposter. So he ends up sling over to wolverine trying to punch him but ends up shattering a chimney because wolverine dodged him with ease, while dodging he lit a cigar.
Spiderman turns around and see wolverine standing a couple of feet behind him questioning wolverine speed saying "this guy moves as fast as i do, i didnt even see him move." Spiderman press his attack again but this time wolverine dodge his punch grabbed him and kicked him in the stomach, sending spiderman flying a couple of feat. Then wolverine popped out his claws and he realizes that it is the real wolverine.
its in a marvel team up book.
Last edited by derrick24 on May 27th, 2005 at 12:49 PM
I think the reason most people don't want to accept the fact that Wolvie doesn't have enhanced speed, is because .....he shouldn't.
No where in his earlier appearences did he have it, or has anyone(writers) ever said it.
He just -seemed- to gain it after he became all uber popular.
People, including myself really hate on Wolvie, he gets away with doing things he just shouldn't be able to do.
Plus, us people over 20 liked him when he was always the underdog, and the "fallen samuri who couldn't trust himself, much less his teammates" as jinzin said.
Most of us identified with the loner/underdog/can't get the broads he wants/ type wolvie.
you all are telling the truth about wolverine except its one thing you forgot. Apocalypse did give him an upgrade, thats when his speed and strength was boosted. Didnt you notice before that wolverine wasnt able to pierce hulk skin but when he was death and he fought hulk, he almost killed him.
Him and sabertooth got a upgrade, sabertooth got his from weapon x and wolverine got his from apocalypse. So wolverine now has speed and strength (on marvel website from 1-7 he is listed as 4) and agility. I do like the old wolvie better but im kind of glad that he got the upgrade because he was getting slapped around by to many weak characters. Another thing, during the time wolverine went feral, during the time that he forced the adamantium out of his body, it was stated that wolverine healing factor was increased dramatically. Beast and the professor tested it and the guy got ran over by a car and got right back up. So he has gotten a dramatic increase in power lately.
I think all of those enhancements went away after he was no longer Death, Derrick24. That, and his adamantium is back, so no more super healing factor.
Everything everyone else said is right: Wolvie does things he shouldn't be doing, and it's probably due to his popularity. He's supposed to be no stronger, faster, or be able to react faster than any human could ever be (somewhere matching or just below Captain America), but a character's limits doesn't seem to worry writers much unless it suits them.
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