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Originally posted by K Von Doom
it isn't one shot of TP blast after another, it's a constant stream of telepathy, psionic energy and mind-tricking illusions...


there's no way your guy can perform "a constant stream of telepathy, psionic energy and mind-tricking illusions" and manage anything else at the same time.... basically you'd only be able to do that until you got mentally tired then it'd be back to fighting for both of them.... and you may incite FT into a rage ... he could perform explosive outbursts of energy (no complex thought needed) which wouldn't harm himself or lessen his power reserves in any way (as they are limitless) but may hurt you.. or at the very least break your concentration

can you even have a constant psi-blast? has it ever been done? i thought the point of it being a blast was to hit over and over???.... i know you can't perform a constant stream of illusions into the mind as that's basically mind control, which is banned...... or by illusions do you mean like real world eye fooling illusions?


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you do realise we'll probably argue this out for a while .... going over every little point... then Evangel will come in before anyone else votes and close it

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Back to the darkness thing... I'm pretty sure herald eyes are just regular eyes on steroids. they still need light to see, just a whole lot less than normal eyes. Which is why they can see light years ahead of them, but still have a limit to their eyesight.


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Back to the darkness thing... I'm pretty sure herald eyes are just regular eyes on steroids. they still need light to see, just a whole lot less than normal eyes. Which is why they can see light years ahead of them, but still have a limit to their eyesight.


exactly.... i recently re-read "the Rebirth of Thanos" and Surfer tries to track his teleporting chair thingy... he shifts his view between the various electromagnetic spectrums available and he finally locks onto it... of course Thanos manages to trick him... but the point is he needs those wavelengths to see


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Hmm... I wonder what happens if the fight stays a tie for a week or so...


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you do realise we'll probably argue this out for a while .... going over every little point... then Evangel will come in before anyone else votes and close it


I know... of course, you could always concede this point. eek!

But enough has probably been written for people to make up their minds. I know I'm not looking forward to debating this much again if I make it through. I've done so little work the past couple of days.

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Hmm... I wonder what happens if the fight stays a tie for a week or so...


We both get eliminated big grin

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i know you can't perform a constant stream of illusions into the mind as that's basically mind control, which is banned...... or by illusions do you mean like real world eye fooling illusions?


Constant stream of illusions isn't mind controlling. Illusions show you something that isn't there, whether you act on it is your choice. Mind control is actually controlling a person and you have no choice. "Thor's brain" can't detect whether something is an illusion. Quasar has no way of detecting something that's magically conjured.

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Does your guy need the Darkhold book to use it?


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Back to the darkness thing... I'm pretty sure herald eyes are just regular eyes on steroids. they still need light to see, just a whole lot less than normal eyes. Which is why they can see light years ahead of them, but still have a limit to their eyesight.


I still think that this is incorrect. Terrax was able to navigate his way in a black hole and hide. And if you say there's complete darkness in the battlefield, that would mean no light of any sort - no energy (no glowing Q-bands, no energy output for Mjolnir, no lightning from your running), no sun, no reflected light, no lightning... etc. And even then, for your strategy to work, I'd have to have normal eyes to blind, which I don't. laughing out loud

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Does your guy need the Darkhold book to use it?


Nope. Everything in the book was given to him by Chthon. He IS the Darkhold. smile

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It doesn't drive him insane either right?
Everyone who's had it other than Strange, flipped out or turned into a warewolf.


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It doesn't drive him insane either right?
Everyone who's had it other than Strange, flipped out or turned into a warewolf.


I think everyone who's tried to access the Darkhold has been corrupted by the power in some way. But Mordred was given the power by Chthon personally, so there was no side-effect, other than losing his soul that is.

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Pshh, souls are for wimps.


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Pshh, souls are for wimps.


Indeed

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Real good fight.
I'm sorta afraid to take your guy on KVD if you win......Darkhold is a mofo to deal with.


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And at the beginning of this I saw Flash Thordon... Saviour of the freaking Universe... simply hackin through a whole bunch of lesser amalgamations. Good fightin KVD. Scoob still dominates the name contest though.


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Real good fight.
I'm sorta afraid to take your guy on KVD if you win......Darkhold is a mofo to deal with.


It'll be a tough match either way. Flash, Dr Strange and Absorbing Man against Manhunter, Mordred and Morg.

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Agreed.

-smiles evily- I wish my guy had total control of the darkhold....


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Agreed.

-smiles evily- I wish my guy had total control of the darkhold....


Doesn't everyone? A magic battle between Dr Strange and Mordred could go on for a while. A strategy utilising other abilities might be the key to winning. evil face No need to worry though, you might end up facing Flash Thordon instead, where the worthiness issue will be brought up again I imagine big grin

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