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Sidious vs Maul vs Tyranus vs Vader
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Gryn Jabar
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Sidious, easily, unless the apprentices get pissed and gang up, then Dooku probably takes it, that or maul.


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If they have any kind of brain they will team up against Sidious... They should realise that they stand no chance against him alone so if they are smart they will take him out first and then fight each other


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In case no one noticed, Vader has already proven himself better than all of them. He killed Sidious in ROTJ. He also killed Tyranus at the beginning of Epoisode III, aboard General Grievous's starship. He has also defeated Maul in a comic (Starwars tales 9, I think), and I think he has also defeated some Maul Clones in one of the Star Wars books. And in this fight I think Vader (with the suit because I personally think he is more powerful in the suit, but thats just my opinion) would emerge victorious. The battle would last for ages, but the first to go would be Maul. Then Tyranus would be killed, most probably by Vader. Then it would be Sidious vs Vader. Sidious would try to use force lightning, but Vader blocks it with his lightsaber, and even sends some lightning back at Sidious. Then it would be a saber battle, in which Vader would win. And there you have it. Vader wins and is the most powerful sith lord.


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Sidious is best in force. Dooku is best in lightsaber. Vader has the greatest exp due to the Clone War and Galactic Civil War and Maul would get killed. Dooku and Vader, one of them.


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Vader didn't actually kill Sidious it was just that Sids was busy frying Luke and Vader saw an oppurtunity and took it


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Oh and which Vader is it


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Emperor Revan
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Whoever thinks Vader is more powerful than Sidious is wrong. There's no question about it. Lucas himself says Mech Vader is only at about 80% of Palpy's power.


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In terms of force. Obi-Wan was weaker then Anakin and he won.


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Emperor Revan
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Yes but he was barely weaker. In any case, I'm just saying Sidious is stronger not that he would always win no matter what. It's just Vader's not always going to have the chance to catch Sidious off guard while using Force lightning, very close to a shaft like that, and without his royal guards around. Also remember that even though Vader killed Sidious, Sidious killed Vader.


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The only reason that Vader was killed on the Death Star was that he did not have his lightsaber to block lightning attacks, nor did he even care what happened to himself. His primary objective was to save his son's life, not his own, so he made no effort to fight back against the lightning in any way. Had it been an actual battle/duel, Vader would have blocked the lightning with his saber and sliced Sidious from head to torso.


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Actually it was because he was holding a full grown man over his head and couldnt block it.


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The only reason that Vader was killed on the Death Star was that he did not have his lightsaber to block lightning attacks, nor did he even care what happened to himself. His primary objective was to save his son's life, not his own, so he made no effort to fight back against the lightning in any way. Had it been an actual battle/duel, Vader would have blocked the lightning with his saber and sliced Sidious from head to torso.


Oh Bullshit. Vader NEEDED Luke's help to kill the Emperor, and he wanted to rule. There's no question about it. Did you see how much trouble Mace had blocking Sidious' lightning? He's more powerful and Vader is about 80% as powerful as Sidious. It took barely any lightning at all to fry him.


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I don't understand what you meant by Vader needed Luke's help. Luke was writhing in agany on the floor when vader killed the emperor. Also Vader could block the lightning that killed him with his lightsaber. And i'm not talking about close range lightning attacks like in the Mace/Sidious duel. In the Obi wan / Count Dooku duel on geonosis in Ep II, Dooku fired lightning at Obi Wan from a far distance, and obi wan put no effort into blocking the attack with his sabre because it was from a far distance. Vader could do the same and then unleash hell all over Sidious.


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well actually the reason that he put no effort into blocking it was because he didnt know it was there in real life. It was added later. GL took the scene from when Yoda and Dooku were showing off thier force skills and added that in for an extra effect. He wanted to show Obi-wan isnt a pushover and to add something into their dialouge.


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And Vader needed Luke to distract the Emperor.


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I believe Sidious would sit back and watch the fight and then kill the last man standing


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lihp123
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I still believe Vader would win, perhaps not in a force battle. It depends whether Vader can use the same move that Yoda used to deflect lightning. Vader can block laser blasts from a blaster (and is the only jedi/sith that can actually do that without a lightsaber i think) and therefore he might be able to use the force to block lightning. I believe that Vader could definately win in a lightsaber battle, because I personally believe that Sidious's lightsaber skills are ammature compared to Vader.
And which Sidious are we talking about here, ROTS or ROTJ. I think there is a difference in strength.


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