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Obi-wan was fighting to win for good Anikan did his blindly for dark evil
But he underestmated Ob-wan he thought he knew him but when Obi-wan had victory he looked down at pitty to his close friend his brother he was reduced to the one thing he was to destory he left him there unable to live with himsefl if he killed him. Taht part of the movie was sad
They actually had the same experience but Obi-wan had killed two Siths Anikan only one in the end but Obi-wan is stronger by a few he is after all a master.
aside from obi wan knowing everything he was about to do. Obiwan was a true jedi, anakin was nothing. He was in transistion of going from jedi to sith. Maybe if he fought as a jedi (emotionless) he could have won, but thats why anakin is always second best isnt it/
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I don't know how Anakin beat Dooku. Dooku makes Obi-Wan look like nothing the first time they fought and the second time Dooku takes out Obi even faster. Then Obi beats Anakin. Just don't add up to me.
Would have been much cooler if the suited Darth Vader had to kill Dooku to finally become the Emperor's apprentice. That would have been an awesome fight with two dark lords fighting each other.
I'm getting sick of hearing how Obi wan beat Anakin "because he knew his fighting style" and all that crap. The fact is, they knew eachother equally, so neither has an advantage because of that.
So why did Obi wan beat Anakin? BECAUSE HE IS STRONGER THEN ANAKIN IN COMBAT, PERIOD. More experienced, calmer, patient, clear headed, all that. He's just flat out better then Anakin.
Don't get confused into thinking that just because Anakin is the Chosen one, that he must be the strongest ever. That is not true. The chosen one profecy ONLY refers to the one that will bring balance to the force. It DOES NOT say anywhere that it also means that he has to be the strongest.
The only time Anakin ever showed any power at all in any of the movies was vs Dooku the second time. Then he gets schooled and loses his legs 2 hours later. Anakin isn't as strong as people think he is. He COULD have been strong, but he never lived up to his potential because he turned to the dark side. He could have been a very powerful Jedi if he trained longer, and learned CONTROL. But he didn't, so he never got very good. He's alright, but Obi wan proved that he's still, and always will be a little whinny *****.
Registered: May 2005
Location: United States,Illinois
you know maybe this is stupid but i thought about it.what if anakin got beat by obi-wan because in some small way he could not bring himself to kill the man who was like a father to him.maybe in a way that held him back and that is why obi-wan was able to win?
anakin was arrogant, as he's always been. i'm sure obi-wan's wanted to slap the shit outta him many times during his training cuz he'd always been such a whiney little puke. you know, to put him in his place. so, he chopped his limbs off. and that's that.
and cuz obi-wan just rules.
wrong, Obi-Wan is not stronger in combat then Anakin. Anakin IS far more powerful then obi is. Anakin is in the league of Yoda and Windu, Obi is one level down from them in terms of power in the force and saber abilities.
Anakin was just arrogant, a fault of the darkside (refer to Maul) he was arrogant and stupid and made a mistake, through the fight Anakin was almost always on attack during that fight, he was in control. Obi was not. Anakin just made a stupid arrogant mistake. otherwise he would have beaten Obi.
the fact is that Anakin, on paper in every single way should have beaten Obi-wan. He was a far greater Jedi then Obi-wan was. (in terms of abilities) as i said, in the league of Yoda and Windu, Obi-Wan was not at that same level.
i agree that it was a mistake.. he overestimated what he could do because of the dark side.. and it was a cheap shot.. obi knew eventually anakin would defeat him and thats why the cheap shot was taken...
Not to completely dispute you, but you should check out the interviews in the strategy guide for the Episode III game. In the back, the stunt choreographer, Nick Gillard is asked about the growth of both Anakin and Ben's lightsaber skills since AOTC.
Gillard said that Ben went from like, skill level 3 to 4, only one level, while Anakin went up from 2 to 5 or 6. Quite a big jump. Anakin fought with power and tenacity, Ben used the calmer approach but was faster.
Ben was the wiser swordsman and he was also a Master. Compared to Anakins strength though, Ben knew he was not going to win in a straight saber fight.
Also, I didn't read the book adaptation to III, but I heard that Dooku was coerced by Palpie to, well, kind of throw the fight...? I could be wrong.
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Jun 5th, 2005 02:28 AM
