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If Anakin could KILL Count Dooku..
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DeVi| D0do
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I think he definitely knew what his intentions where... that is, to kill Obi-Wan. And if he could kill him he would have, but he never got the chance. Obi-Wan fought well.

It's the whole 'high ground' thing, which I think is kinda cheap. Obi-Wan had the high ground, which gave him the advantage over Anakin. For Anakin to get the advantage he needed to jump to higher ground. I guess the logic being that whoever was on the high ground would push the other into the lava either by force or duelling...


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Agreed.


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He should have used the force.


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Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
There is nothing throughout the entire duel to suggest that Obi-Wan kicks Anakin's ass...

Oh really? What about the Conference Table scene at the beginning of Chapter 40, Battle of the Heroes, when Obi-Wan literally kicked Anakin in the butt. laughing

I think that chopping off someone's legs and arms is a pretty severe example of ownage. Obi-Wan showed that he was better than Anakin, at least on that particular day. He deserves credit for that.

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Doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning's.


Yup. Any real racer...um Jedi, would know that.


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Re: If Anakin could KILL Count Dooku..

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Then how could he lose to Obi-Wan?


Because it was in the script


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1. He made one dumbass mistake.
2. Obi and Anakin had trained with each other for years, they knew eachothers moves.


I agree.

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Re: Re: If Anakin could KILL Count Dooku..

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Because it was in the script


...and Obi-Wan needed to live until Episode 4.


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Obi-Wan didn't let his emotions get in the way and was smarter than Anakin, who was blinded by hatred because of Padmé's betrayal.

The whole scene of 'I have the high ground' and 'You understimate my power' wraps it up.

And I don't know who said it here: but Anakin sure as hell wasn't as good with the lightsaber as Yoda and Windu were. Only Sidious proved to be a match for them and Dooku in some friendly Jedi sparring sessions.


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the only reason obiwan has able to beat anakin is because he had the higher ground and was able to cut off his other arm and both his legs in one swing when anakin jumped up at obiwan, and yes because obiwan was the shizznits and could kick anybodys ass in a duel excpet dooku because dooku was qui-gon jin master and jin was obiwans master. dooku saw obiwan grow up and became a strong jedi and was able to learn his moves easy but dooku wasnt able to learn anakins and anakin beat the crap out of dooku the second time they met.

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luls why we bump 5 year old thread? it stinks of rot in here.


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the only reason obiwan has able to beat anakin is because he had the higher ground and was able to cut off his other arm and both his legs in one swing when anakin jumped up at obiwan, and yes because obiwan was the shizznits and could kick anybodys ass in a duel excpet dooku because dooku was qui-gon jin master and jin was obiwans master. dooku saw obiwan grow up and became a strong jedi and was able to learn his moves easy but dooku wasnt able to learn anakins and anakin beat the crap out of dooku the second time they met.


Nah.


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Both times in the Star Wars movies someone says: "You underestimate my power," some one gets hurt.

Like in RotS Anakin gets his arm and legs chopped off, and in RotJ Luke falls into the rancor pit.

Anyway, I think that Obi-Wan won because he was thinking clearly, and Anakin was not, what with the whole Padme thing.


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Originally posted by king_arthur
I don't know how Anakin beat Dooku. Dooku makes Obi-Wan look like nothing the first time they fought and the second time Dooku takes out Obi even faster. Then Obi beats Anakin. Just don't add up to me.

Would have been much cooler if the suited Darth Vader had to kill Dooku to finally become the Emperor's apprentice. That would have been an awesome fight with two dark lords fighting each other.


That goes against the Sith's longtime code, that there can only be two at a time.
Dooku was intended all along to become a sacrifice, to push Anakin further to the Dark Side. Dooku was duped by Sidious into thinking they could recriut Anakin; he only realized his error seconds before death.


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Check out the ROTS novel, it gives incredible insight to both fights. With Dooku, Anakin was incredibly focused and nearly unstoppable. It said that all of Dooku's training and force mastery was turned into a joke against Anakin and all Anakin had to do was decide. Dooku was already dead, the rest was just details.

With OB1, Anakin was even more powerful, but that was the first time he had to sit stew over what he'd done. Also, he was fighting his "brother" and they knew each other, "more intimately than lovers," so they knew each others moves just as well as their own.

Ultimately, Anakin made a horrible decision trying to jump over OB1. In any other circumstance, OB1 would have most likely been killed. As with all Sith, overconfidence was his downfall.


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Also its the style Obi-wan used a defensive one allowing him to survive the duell till it came to Anakins mistake. If he had used an aggressive one like Qui-gon Jinn he wouldn't have made it till then. Then again Obi-wan had an advantage because Anakin was completely devastated. Padme had the one person who he had done all this for had betrayed him (at least he thought it was like that).


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i just think Obi-Wan was simply that good. Dooku believed he was better than Anakin, his arrogance blinding him to the fact that Anakin's power had grown. Plus, the physicality of his lightsaber combat was a problem Dooku seemed to have troule dealing with.

Obi-Wan, on the other hand, didn't suffer from said arrogance. He respected Anakin's power, and found a way around it. Did having the high ground help? Sure. I still think Obi would have beaten him eventually though. More experienced, smarter, and just as good in lightsaber combat imo (i actually think he was slightly better, tbh).


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Yes , Star Wars is a complete fantasy and you could just chalk it up and say it's a movie , but combat is really not that simple. Just because he defeated Count Dooku does'nt mean he can easily defeat Obi-wan in an entirley differnet Enviroment. If you remember it was his last move that did him in.

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