You're basing your opinion on people you met in a toy store??? Of course the people you ask in there are going to be kids.Since kids generally go to toy stores.
I could say the success of Batman Begins,which was nowhere near as successful as Spider-Man 1&2 btw,was down to kids.Can you prove any different?? Of course not.
Look around.I know you from SHH and here.How many people between the two sites shared your opinions about the organics?? How many people hated them so much that they tagged the movie Man-Spider like you?? Two,three,four maybe??
The people who accepted the organics far out weighed those who didn't.And you know I'm right.You also know I respect you and your opinions even though I don't agree with some of them.Nothing wrong with wanting your characters done 100% right.
But to say it's split 50/50 over the organics is very wrong.
And with regards to the PM's I just forgot to answer them.There was nothing urgent in them if I remember.Apologies for the delay
about parker coment, since he is ignoring me, DUHHHHHHHH, why u think lion king was the bigest hit? becouse EVERYONE went back to the theather to see it, i remember i went 10 times myself, this plus my mother, 2 of them with my mother and sister, and 3 times, with my mother and my cousing.....that weights a lot, see star wars.....its completely, crap.......but a lot of nerds were enjoying that shit, and seeing over and over again, same goes for the di caprio disease that empested the theathers when titanic was shown.......
kids weight on the selling this is a fact .thats why my complaint against spiderman comics, were in vain, i wanted good grown up histories, some histories could had been so much better than they already were if they had a older public in mind, but spiey is also bought by kids, so it has to be leveled down.
thats what they have in mind in all those comics adaptation, spidey 1 one was a typical teen movie, sm2 is slight better but still a bity silly, and even batman begins being cool, and well made, is not as serious as people are talking, they just got used, to the ridiculous batman of later times, bb is also kinda silly.much more mature than spiderman1,maybe thats why it lacked on the theater sellings....
in my session i saw a boy and his grandmother leaving the screen, becouse the boy was complaining all the time where is batman, bah, its boring, i want to see batman, and went away, his money was cashed already, but he problably said this to his friends, and they might have been away from the movie,plus the ppl who didnt care for comics, and have been suspicious after the later gays batman movie, for me the first 2 are acetible,i really liked them, i cant say that now becouse i refuse to wactch it with my mature eyes and erase the lovely child memories i have from the same.
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Yes I said that but I obviously changed my mind as I just stated because I enjoy shooting down your laughable and weak arguments and decided to read your post on THIS thread,but obviously you dont remember that just like you dont remember many things I tell you time and time again.
No I am saying that it did not matter how horrible the manspider movie was because spiderman is such a popular icon figure it did not matter how horrible the script was,that people had been waiting ages for that movie to be made so because of his extreme popularity,it did not matter how horrible the movie was,the name spiderman alone assured it of being such a huge success.please try to remember that but I am sure thats too much to ask of you. where do you get this handful crap? I never said that? your putting words in my mouth.
No Lord of the rings is a good film because it has an intelligent script with a good story unlike the stupid manspider movies. Its usually the good quality comicbook movies that dont make that much money that are great comicbook films and bad comicbook films that make the huge money,thats the way its always been.The Hulk and a few others being exceptions. Batman Begins didnt make anywhere near as much money as Batman 89 did but that hardly means its not a better film.Yes but so what if your dad said that,that hardly proves its a better movie or that its a good film,he happens to like a crappy film,many people like crappy films so what? whats that have anything to do with anything? That sure doesnt prove thats its a good movie so whats the point of all that nonsense? again your uncle is obviously e one of those people like you whos does not care about hollywood raping to death a great character and is just happy about seeing the name spiderman on the screen and does not how bad the spiderman film really is.No a loyal fan would be pissed about this movie which all those people you have mentioned are not.
Like you,they only care about seeing the name spiderman up on the screen and thats good enough for you all.where loyal fans demand a good quality script with a good storyline,something the manspider movies are truely lacking and no that would be YOU an dthe others who have some on here and dont care about seeing a phony neautered version of spiderman on the screen who are the people who are not loayl fans.You need to look in the mirror when telling someone they are not a loyal fan.The ones that have come on here and said they agree with me that the movie should have been called manspider such as me bakerboy and stevie are the loyal fans,none of you all are.
you are clueless as usual because I go by what "I" see and know not what my family says.They said all that long after I saw the movie so once again you prove you are clueless on what you are talking about like you have so many times on this and that other thread.if anything,you would be the one going along with what your family tells you,not me.Not saying you are,but from what all you have said,if anybody would be going along with what their family is saying,it would be you NOT me.
Well for once,you FINALLY made a good reasonable point,its a miracle.You liked Lord Of the rings and can recognize that it had a good quality script,but you refuse to see how poorly written the manspider movies really are and only care about seeing the name spiderman on the screen so you cant spot crap when its right in front of your face as far as spiderman movies go anyways.you dont have bad tatst in movies you just have bad taste when it comes to watching spiderman movies since all you care about is seeing the name alone of spiderman on the screen.
Stop calling it Man Spider, it's called Spiderman.
Batman and Robin, was crap so do you call it, ManBat and Robin. NO, so relax, take a deep breath, count to 3, and say it with me. Spiderman is good, and I will no longer be blinded, by organics. Ok repeat that to yourself 5 times.
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so what if it broke records for a thursday,not surprising since spiderman is such an extremely popular icon figure.sure it wasnt ALL kids that made it the smash hit it was,most those people were moviegoers who had been waiting ages for the movie to come out,Hollywood had been talking for over 15 years of making a spiderman film but it took them over 15 years to finally make one because of several legal entanglements on what studio had the rights to make it.Spider-Man being the extremely popular icon figure that he is and so much talk of a spiderman movie being made over the years made even the average movie goer excited and anxious to want to see it on opening day,so of course it wasnt just the kids that made it a huge hit,but them and their familys were A HUGE factor in its repeat business.Some people like yourself are obviously just too blinded by the really great special effects in the movie to see past that and see the shortcomings and failures of the film to see how poorly written it is.I will admit the special effects especially the second one,were awesome,but unlike yourself and many others I am not going to blindly love it because of that and refuse to see how poorly written these films are.This movie is like star wars the phantom menace with great special effects but a horrible storyline.The phantom menace like manspider was a huge blockbuster but hardly a good star wars film like the first two films were.same with the manspider movies.
Yeah Batman and Robin was crap but no I am not going to call it man-bat.He would only be man-bat if he had organic wings coming out of his back.Now THEN I would call him man-bat because that would be correct because he would be a monster.You cant accept it that he is a monster now and that he is a man-spider.you dont want to hear that he is a man-spider,dont enter this thread,nobody is pointing a gun at your head forcing you to read my posts.again you show your not using logic.The fact that was the ONLY thing you had to comment on in that post of mine,does that mean that you finally have conceded that you have no argument left because I have countered everything you have said on here for the most part?
again your making false untrue staetements.I have never been banned here before at this site.where did you come up with that crap? No I point out to you the flaws in these movies and you keep coming up with stupid answers all the time,not me.You didnt try and end the discussion,you just kept coming back with all these long insane posts each time with questions in your posts all the time.again thats hardly a way to end an argument by making all these long statements and then asking questions everytime,that will never and an argument.the only way you can end an argument is not responding to my posts.You say you want to end the argument but your actions of keep responding prove you dont. I wont call him the human spider because he is NOT human anymore. it makes plenty of sense you just got no logic to understand that hollywood has raped to death his character and made him a manspider.plus I have told you countless of times that it was much more than organics that made this movie a horrible film,but you ignored those posts everytime because you knew you could not counter them and it was you who attacked me in that other thread when I voiced my opinon there as others pointed it out.you started it all there by attacking me for my opinon on the mary jane thread and you never apologized for that so stop acting like I started this whole thing.
I sure hope that your not like Rupert and ask the same questions over and over again after I gave the answers to her countless of times before but NO,I have said this countless of times before in the past,that No I dont hate the movie just because of the organics,the movie was horribly written with many HUGE mistakes in the film.It was a lot lot lot more than just the organics that made me hate this film.If you would like,I could pm you what they were and maybe me and you could have a rational discussion about it.Unlike Rupert,you seem to be at least be reasonable.anyways I got to go now,let me know if you would want me to pm you the answers on WHY this movie was so horribly written and I will be glad to.
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Lets see, sorry but i did a mistake, i wanted to say godfather part three , not two. The rest of the argument is the same. To post that the godfather part three was bad is false.
Lets see, first of all, to post that the two man spider movies were good because their box office is so ridiculous and non sense as stupid. So , keeping your theory, scooby doo is better than citizen kane or casablanca, because it did more money. Or Kangaroo jack is better than pulp fiction or taxi driver because it did more money. Or spy kids should be better than ranging bull or the elephant man because it did more money. MONEY DOESTN MEAN QUALITIY, ONLY POPULARITY. could you get the difference???
Second of all , it is man spider, not spider man, spider man is a guy with web shooters, not organics. And yes, organics makes of him a freak because isnt a power or a ability that peter cant hide as the others like stiking walls or the super strenght. Its very evident, webs from his wrists, what stupid. For not say that he should shoot his webs from his ass, as the spider does. have you seen a spider with webs in its legs??
The reason for not post the web shooters in the movie is so stupid as absurd. So , a guy creating the web fluid should be unvelieble in a superheroe movie based in a comic book, with spider man, green goblin, doctor octopus, etc. What a logic theory.
The man spider movies arent faithful to the comics, but also they arent good movies, they are bad. Bad scripts, corny lines, bad performances, etc. To compare it to lord of the rings, its laughable. Lord of the rings movies are ones of the best movies based on a book ever, with great scripts, fantastic performances and lines to remember all the life. Harry potter movies are so superior to the man spider ones that is laughable too.
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You do know that in a way, Spider-Man is staying true to the comics, because Spider-Man did in a way have organics when he had the symbiote costume. Well, it wasn't completely organic. but when he had the costume on, it was. he didn't use webshooters, and he had infinite webbing. And Bakerboy, don't go using my two favorite movies against me. I love the Harry Potter movies, and I thought Lord of the Rings was excellent, so don't go acting like I think their the worst movies ever. Because I love those movies. And Godfather part 3 wasn't the best, as I said. and the thing is that Spider-Man does have quality, that's why critics gave it an "A" and tons of people gave it a good rating, too! So it's not just the money.
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Wait a minute! Did you say the HULK was a good movie? Dude, that was only an okay movie! It wasn't amazing!
If you weren't banned, then why did I hear you were? and believe it or not, Spider-Man's STILL human, for the fact that he looks like a human. and I didn't start it there, I was just asking you what your problem was, along with my opinion, and you started taking it offensively, and started making up answers. and you kept replying even when I wanted you to stop! Which only proves that you want to argue with me! So could you PLEASE stop replying to my answers!
Then why do you make a big deal about him having organics? That's all you seem to ever talk about on other Spider-Man threads when talking about the movie. don't ever hear any other complaints about it.
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Last edited by #1Rupert_Lover on Aug 6th, 2005 at 01:43 PM
speaking of corny lines. Star Wars episode I, II, and III all had corny lines in them, but it was an excellent movie. So I don't see how corny lines could stop something from being good.
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it makes plenty of sense you just got no logic to understand that hollywood has raped to death his character and made him a manspider.plus I have told you countless of times that it was much more than organics that made this movie a horrible film,but you ignored those posts everytime because you knew you could not counter them and it was you who attacked me in that other thread when I voiced my opinon there as others pointed it out.you started it all there by attacking me for my opinon on the mary jane thread and you never apologized for that so stop acting like I started this whole thing.
