Iceman can still enter his body along the moisture naturally present in the air, and then inhabit the saliva in Supes mouth after entering through his nose, then move about freely.
Unless, of course, Supes is going to fight plugging his nose, holding his breath, with ear plugs, anal plugs, and a condom on.
water is not the same as poison gas. Poison gas can be differentiated from regular non poisonous gases like air and oxygen. Water cannot be differentiated from water.
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Noone on that X-team had anywhere NEAR the invulnerability of Superman, so how do we know that it would even work on him?
Plus, you guys need to stop comparing Supe's physiology to humans. I mean, the guy has internal organs that absorb sunlight, produce forcefields, gives him telekinetic strength, etc.
We don't even know how much Kryptonian's phys. differs from a human, but it is by a lot. Why do you think he can't have a child with Lois?
Superman is internally and externally shielded from harm. I still doubt Bobby could do anything except cause him minor discomfort.
has this moisture inversion attempt been tried to any hero/villian to the point where it can kill someone? that sounds a little crazy...
while we're on teh topic of crazy abilities, why can't superman just heat himself up to an temperature where water, or water vapor (for iceman fanboys theory) just evaporates and can't enter his body????
The bioaura surrounds individual cells, not just his body as a whole.
Iceman gets in - but then can't do anything at all.
His cells are invulnerable, from outside them, or within them, down to a molecular level. He is irradiated.
If Iceman transferred his consciousness into the cytoplasm inside one of Supes' cells - he basically traps himself in an invulnerable prison until he transfers out again.
Iceman is nothing compared to the Man of Steel.
Even comparing them is a joke lol!
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Supes has a circulatory system and a digestive system, meaning that his bodily fluids move about freely throughout his body. Each of Supes blood cells and the fluids his body naturally secretes are not protected by his bio-matrix, if they were it would not allow him to metabolize food, water or other liquids, and his blood would not coagulate, or be in a liquid form. Billions of blood cells, saliva, digestive fluids, etc, individually protected by a forcefield? How would they be able to transport oxygen to his cells or digest solids, let alone integrate?
And need I remind people of the Kryptonian illness "Virus X".
Saliva and digestive fluids don't make up his body, lol. They're not part of his structure, just chemicals produced to get a job done.
If Bobby took control of them, he'd've only succeeded in creating a new problem for himself - how do you hurt Superman using saliva or stomach acids?
And with the bloodcells.... you do realise that Superman can go hours, days, weeks... even 15,000 years on a single breath? Bobby could turn his blood cells inside out, make it flow backwards - whatever. It wouldn't do anything because Supes has enough oxygen within his muscular cells to last him for an indeterminate length of time.
All Bobby would do is trap himself inside Superman.
Which he wouldn't get a chance to do. Seeing as how Supes could see him, whether he's intangibel or not, and outmaneuver him all day long, zapping at and disintegrating every individual molecule using his laser and micro-vision.
These things are fully within Superman's capabilities.
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By in habiting Supes circulatory system Iceman would have access to Supes entire anatomy, which would in turn lead him to the avenue of causing a stroke or heart attack from within Supes protection.
Each of Supes cells is not individually wrapped in a protective forcefield. If that were the case they would not be able to bond. His sum is protected, not his parts.
The saliva and digestive fluids (and blood) are just examples of Supes own bodily fluids which Bobby could inhabit. From either if those to he could transfer his conciousness into another fluid within Supes body. They are simply a means of entry.
Iceman could also, with time, since he could inhabit Supes body fluids, remove all of the moisture from Supes body to reform his own body. I doubt Supes can survive without any hydration in his body down to the celular level.
Microvision would be of no consequence. Water vapor is ever present in the air. There is no way for Superman to discern between Iceman and regular vapor because Iceman would BECOME regular water vapor, he would just transfer his consciousness along the already present vapor (similar to Swamp Thing with plants, rocks, air, water, fire). Also, Supes can not see Bobby's disembodied consciousness. He'd wouldn't see Iceman coming in this form. I do not believe Supes has "astral vision" or "psionic vision", he's been posessed and psionically manipulated before and did not see it coming.
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