well i never said revan was the most powerful. he was certainly the most powerful of his time, but i never said of all time. plus Revan was not created until much after the NJO series was written, so he wouldnt have appeared there
...Yeah go and dream up other false things about him in your fantasies...(this doesn't apply to everyone that has posted on this form)...don't waste my time with explanations of why you say he knows all lightsaber forms or Force techniques, instead of actual proof.
Special Thanks to Revan21 for informing everybody that I won't listen to their pathetic fantasies...
Well you won't, your a pathetic excuse for a debater... We can't show you a direct quote about his lightsaber forms just a logical conclusion gathered from several sources all pointing at about the same thing.
All the other knowledge stuff is true, you really won't listen to anything we say here.
You have room to talk Fishy...you haven't supplied anything that can prove the claims that Darth Revan knew all Force Powers and lightsaber techniques.
Anyway, I have proven my point...I'm done...this thread is over, unless someone can prove that Darth Revan knew all Force powers and lightsaber techniques.
Darth Revan is easily one of the most powerful Dark Lords of the Sith. He was an excellent tactition - and nearly destroyed the Republic in all out war. He had many abilities. But his Battle Meditation clearly lacked in terms of Bastilla and Palpatine. He did NOT takeover the galaxy. Only Palpatine has done that - he did get pretty damn close though. His Sith Empire is said to be great - but weaker than the one led by Ragnos and the Ancient Sith Lords. His knowledge of the Force is astounding. But I do not believe he's worthy of the title as "the most powerful" or "the greatest". He's one of both. But he did not ultimately accomplish the goals of his order. Again. He got close. But failed to even accomplish it, if only for the moment.
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Didn't Reven + Malak just turn up and say they were Sith???
like who taught them the ways of the Sith??
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I think somebody got told a lie and he got pissed off about it and decided to come to the specialists(sp) on the matter.
First off, NO ONE and i mean -No One- Can learn all the Force Abilities. The Force is like eternal or something. Just about Anything is possible if you know what your doing.
Lightsabre Techniques... I could hold a stick upside down and say it is the most lethal technique in the world. Just like the Force, Techniques are Endless.
Now, Im not saying it isnt Possible to know every -Known- Technique with a Lightsabre or every -Known- Force Ability. But in my own -personal- Opinion, Darth Revan knew or knew of every known Force Ability and Lightsabre Technique.
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Hey stupid head. I dare you to respond to my post. Prove to me that Ragnos is the strongest like you say he is, prove that he knew any Force powers or any lightsaber forms. No one knew them all or probably ever will, but we know Lord Revan knew many many Force powers and knew several techniques.
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Right...No one knows them all. Emperor Revan if you want a reply to your post here it is...
I am not going to waste my time explaining to someone why the Ancient Sith are more powerful than the Sith later on down the line with someone who has created pathetic things about Darth Revan in their fantasies. There is no point in it. Like I have said, I proven my point...this thread is over...unless someone can prove all these claims. I have given people a chance and I still got replies that are filled with the dumbest excuses of why Darth Revan knows all these things. (That does not apply to everyone that has posted on this forum)
You guys can write the lamest things to explain your fantasies...
(How was that for a reply Emperor Revan? Go ahead waste your time in writing a response )
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I don't know whats funnier you believing all that crap you are posting or you not believing what we are posting...
You really need to think about what you are doing here, trying to annoy people online won't do you a lot of good except for everybody here ignoring you. Which you will probably not care about but neither will we. Here's an idea though remove your head from your ass jump down a 12 story high building then stick it back in mid way and when you almost hit the ground fart so that your head will stink like the shit that comes out of your mouth.
Wow...Just like everything else that comes out of your fantasies that sucked to. Good job in wasting your own time in writing something that reflects very poor intelligence.
(Go ahead keep wasting your time in writing replies to this thread)
Those aren't powers save for possibly the Battle Meditation skill - they're just feats of manipulation. Luke didn't create a 'Force black hole', he just used the Force to manipulate a star into becoming a black hole. Don't make up an excuse like, "If he could, he could've just made one to destroy the Star Forge!". Why doesn't Luke just constantly alter gravity against all of his opponents? Because it wouldn't make for a very good story, would it?
Moving planets with the Force? No different from moving a spoon save for the amount of power needed. Same for altering gravity.
None of those are powers. They're just examples of controlling/manipulating the Force to 'make stuff happen'.
This sounds an awful lot like a "Man, Luke is too da best, I'll show you guys!". And Revan wasn't mentioned because those books were written before Revan became canon. Come now, let's be sensible.
Here a a snipit of the novel "Star Wars: Dark Tide I Onslaught." If you want to look it up for yourself go to page 259 and read these paragraphs...
In Impervious's cockpit, Luke pointed toward the large vehicle. "Get us closer."
"Yes, Master Skywalker."
"How's the missile telemetry coming through, Artoo?"
The little droid tootled confidently, spinning his head around to look at Luke.
A beep sounded from the droid, and Elegos glanced at a secondary monitor. "I have four torpedo launches. All are hot."
"Good."
Luke sank back into the chair and closed his eyes. He took a deep breath and reached out through the Force. He let his sense of things ride above the frayed ones' jagged profile and vectored in toward the vehicle. He got no solid sense of it directly, though a few frayed ones did appear to be housed inside. Instead he used that emptiness as a way to point to search out a void, and as it formed, the black hole blossomed fully in the Force.
The void that the vehicle's dovin basals created to intercept the missiles was a gravitic anomaly that had subtances in the real world. Tiny threads of the Force leaked into it as insects and birds, bats and bugs were pulled into it. Luke used their vanishing life traces and very currents in the air that the void created to define the void. He traced its edges, knes exactly where it was, and knew how powerful it was.
He opened himself to the Force more fully than he had in years. He sought more power than he had wehn freeeing his nephew. The Force flooded into him, at once molten-metal hot, yet as soothing as cool rain. It swriled through him, filling every cell of his body, freeing him from fatigue, sharpening his mind.
Now this proves my point that Luke does not need some other power source other than the Force to create black holes. I have provided information and a source for someone to look it up theirself. Now if you got the impression that I think Luke in stronger than Revan...well your right, also I would like to state this is the type of proof that the people defending Darth Revan have failed to say. Luke creating black holes did not come out of my fantasy...it happened. Now to you guys that have said Darth Revan knew all Force powers and lightsaber techniques...please leave proof and a source like the one above.
And another thing people have failed to do. Look something up for yourself to make sure its true, before writing it on any thread.
Sure, it proves your point. I, however, don't seem to remember disputing that fact; looking back at my own post, I know for a fact I didn't. Who said Luke needed a source other than the Force to create black holes? Heed your own advice of looking things up and start reading posts correctly before throwing out counter arguments.
If you think NJO Luke is more powerful than Revan, well, that's your opinion and it's your prerogative as to what that opinion is; many would agree with you as well, possibly including myself. However, though Revan may not know everything about the Force (which, as has been brought up many times though you ignored it, is likely impossible), he was extremely knowledgeable in either side of the Force's abilities and was a very skilled lightsaber combatant. There's no disputing that - it's been stated in the KotOR series of games. If you want examples of Revan's power, search through the boards. They're there, trust me.
Jun 23rd, 2005 03:13 AM
...Yeah go and dream up other false things about him in your fantasies...(this doesn't apply to everyone that has posted on this form)...don't waste my time with explanations of why you say he knows all lightsaber forms or Force techniques, instead of actual proof. 
